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I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011. Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony. I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar. Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. A man who lives in hell can still aspire to heaven.:cartoons/WB17.gif



Quote: Yippee try yay "Christ! That's a really really long time.'"


Such a long time ago. Especially for those clubs who haven't been good enough to win a major trophy in all that time (since 1985).
Imagine that, going all of those years watching your club, never lifting anything of note.
I have no idea how depressing that must feel!!!

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Quote: Sebasteeno "Looks like two losses to start the season but no biggie as it'll help the team gel for when the must win games start'"


Perhaps but we need the first W on the board given we've only won three out of our last thirty-four games (and lost n-n-n-n-nineteen games away from home in a row).

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll " (and lost n-n-n-n-nineteen games away from home in a row).'"


[iNone of them received a hero's welcome.[/i

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Blimey! The BBC doesn’t like us.

Just clicked on the SL League Table on the RL page and they have us bottom. Normally in the close season they list the league in alphabetical order with all teams on 0 points.

Saints, Hudds and Wakefield are 1, 2, and 3. Even the great Man City/PSG of Rugby League are only sixth.

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Warrington, Wigan, Leigh and Catalans 3 times. That feels rough.
It's a hugely back loaded fixture list when it come to home games again with about 2/3 in the final 3 months of the season.

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Four home games in first 13, five in first 16, 8 from last 11 games at home hopefully we be in a half decent position.

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Will need to improve our away record (and also win record based on last year)

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Quote: WIZEB " (and lost n-n-n-n-nineteen games away from home in a row).'"


[iNone of them received a hero's welcome.[/i'"


None of them, none of them

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I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011. Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony. I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar. Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. A man who lives in hell can still aspire to heaven.:cartoons/WB17.gif



Quote: scarrie "Warrington, Wigan, Leigh and Catalans 3 times. That feels rough.
It's a hugely back loaded fixture list when it come to home games again with about 2/3 in the final 3 months of the season.'"


Those four loop fixtures are a knock on effect of finishing in the bottom four this year (two top-four sides plus two mid-four sides). We're continuing to pay the price for being so bad in 2024.
It's another obstacle we have to work through next year as we start the road back to respectability.

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Good to see the fixtures are spread over the weekend at last a bit of common sense, no three games on a Friday anymore, One Thursday, two Friday, Two Saturday and one Sunday but sometimes one Saturday, two Sunday.

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Quote: BP1 "Those four loop fixtures are a knock on effect of finishing in the bottom four this year (two top-four sides plus two mid-four sides). We're continuing to pay the price for being so bad in 2024.
It's another obstacle we have to work through next year as we start the road back to respectability.'"


How are the loop fixtures arrived at, I'm assuming there is some sort of logic to it?

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I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011. Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony. I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar. Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. A man who lives in hell can still aspire to heaven.:cartoons/WB17.gif



Quote: scarrie "How are the loop fixtures arrived at, I'm assuming there is some sort of logic to it?'"


I'm not wholly sure. I know the league is split into three groups of four (top, middle, bottom) and you then play two games (one home, one away) from each of the two groups you're not in (hence our group of fixtures).
But I've no idea how those individual fixtures are arrived at. In our case, for example, why Wigan/Wire and not Salford/rovers, or Leigh/Cats and not Saints/Leeds?

Similarly, at magic we are allocated another bottom-four side, but I guess in that instance we were paired with Huddersfield so that Cas-Wakey could be the other one? Whether there is a definitive logic process to all this I don't know, this is rugby league after all!

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Quote: BP1 "I'm not wholly sure. I know the league is split into three groups of four (top, middle, bottom) and you then play two games (one home, one away) from each of the two groups you're not in (hence our group of fixtures).
But I've no idea how those individual fixtures are arrived at. In our case, for example, why Wigan/Wire and not Salford/rovers, or Leigh/Cats and not Saints/Leeds?

Similarly, at magic we are allocated another bottom-four side, but I guess in that instance we were paired with Huddersfield so that Cas-Wakey could be the other one? Whether there is a definitive logic process to all this I don't know, this is rugby league after all!'"


Regardless, I now know more than I did, so thanks.
Didn't know they split the league into groups.

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Quote: scarrie "How are the loop fixtures arrived at, I'm assuming there is some sort of logic to it?'"


I believe because we finished 11th, we play 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th 3 times. So if we'd have finished 5th and Leigh 11th for example, we'd still have the same loop fixtures

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I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011. Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony. I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar. Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. A man who lives in hell can still aspire to heaven.:cartoons/WB17.gif



Quote: Faithful One "I believe because we finished 11th, we play 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th 3 times. So if we'd have finished 5th and Leigh 11th for example, we'd still have the same loop fixtures'"


That does make some sense and is reasonably logic. So I guess, under that criteria, if we had finished tenth last year (or even bottom icon_eek.gif ) we would have been given a third derby (as rovers were second) instead of playing Wigan for a third time?
The Huddersfield game (9th v 11th) is the one to be played out at magic weekend alongside the likes of Wigan v Wire (1st v 3rd). That does look fairly clear, for once!

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