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| Quote: davey37 "Said it on another thread and i'll post it on here.
Why does everyone criticise Johnson?
Maybe hasn't stood out but then he has hardly been given any game time.
Deserves more time.'"
His role in the team looks to be over with Hull now realizing the mistake of signing a lighter pack of forwards .
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| hes got the heart ,just not the size, could he play second row ?
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| Yeaman, Horne, Crookes. Glad to see the back of Tickle now. Johnson needs game time; FFS, we kept Dowes for years and he never ran straight.
Pitts is already good enough to play for us and I'd take him over Mika anyday.
Any fool that's calling for Ellis to go hasn't got a clue. He's been solid. Its not his fault Gentle insists on using him as a battering ram. Let him run out wide and put his centres away. We've missed a wide-runner since McMenemy retired.
Finally, I reckon the reason FC dropped their interest in Mika was down to Radders. I bet he was a Gentle/McRae target.
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| Quote: tommyfromhull "If you can't appreciate the quality of Gareth Ellis you clearly don't know what you're talking about.'"
This.
Ellis may not have set the world on fire with a free flowing attack as many expected but he has tried his up most to lead the team from the front. Out of the 17 on Thursday he is not the one I would be looking to get rid of.
Gentle has to go, I defended him in the past but you can't defend what happened last Thursday and he is too inconsistent as a coach to see us win anything under him. I was prepared to let him have another season to see if the foundations of defense could be built upon but his position is now very difficult and lacks the personality to get the team out of it.
I like to fact he has brought youth into the team and given players opportunities but bottom line is he can't fire the team up even in adversity. Recruitment for me has being questionable, I like the thought of bringing in young players but its not what the first team needs now, it needs proven top quality players and we wasn't recruiting that.
As for players leaving I think Yeaman has seen better days and our attack on the left hand side is now poor, I believe he is a big reason as to why Briscoe left. Horne whilst had a decent start to the campaign it still doesn't convince me he is a player we should be looking to have in the 17 every week, however at this moment in time I would have him ahead of Holdsworth. Tickle I am glad to see the back of, end of on that front. Don't see Bowden making it as a player but can remain as a squad player, should probably spend next season out on loan somewhere. Jason Crookes for me again is not a good player and never will be so I would not look at him being a starting winger for next season. Watts is not delivering on the pitch and in terms of development is going backwards and I would keep Miller think he will come good, but with no Gentle about I'm not sure if his heart will be with us anymore.
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| Quote: K-Diddy "Just out of interest, now Lynch has gone & your stripping Ellis of the captaincy who would you give it to? Please don't say Houghton.'"
While I don't for one second want rid of Ellis he should never have been given the captaincy over Lynch. By his own admission Ellis captains by 'leading by example' (very much, dare I say it, like Radders did - not saying much on the pitch at all). You don't need to be captain to display that sort of leadership, invaluable though his experience, steadying influence and presence is.
I'd make Whiting captain and give him a start at loose man every match, now Lynch has gone. Sadly, I think if Lynch had retained the captaincy he'd still be here.
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| I think Ellis has been playing injured .
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| Really can't believe the number of people calling for us to get rid of Horne. Such silliness.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Really can't believe the number of people calling for us to get rid of Horne. Such silliness.'"
It's very bizarre. It can't be an opinion based on form, because he's played very well when on the field.
I agree totally with Wormy about Whiting - I think he should've been our captain for years now.
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| Quote: B0NES "I think Ellis has been playing injured .'"
Could it be the rib injury he picked up in cup final?? Heard it was Rib Cartlidge??
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Is that the slow horne who chased down and caught the saints winger the other week who crookes couldn't get anywhere near?'"
Absolutely , the one and the same. When do you propose we get rid? Just after he can't do that? I think just before is a better idea. It's like bringing on subs just after the player coming off has missed a tackle. Anyone can see that but the skill in coaching is doing it just before it happens. Good teams have consistently timed their retention and disposals well and without sentiment. The fact that Horne has had something of a renaissance this year is as much to do with the poor standards around him as it is his recovery from injuries. Whiting does blow my argument because I'd treat him as an exception and build the team around him. Having said that he's got more years left in him than Horne anyway. Horne has been a loyal servant for us as has Yeaman and they are FC through and through but they are not going to be the basis of progression over the next few years. There's little we can do about it though because they and others who are average or old have contracts and it's increasingly unlikely that we will be able to attract anything different. So we can't draw lines and make any wholesale changes to the squad and have to , again , make the token gesture of changing the figurehead. And so it goes on until , hopefully , we just happen to get lucky and hit on a generation of local Hull lads that just happen to provide a spread of forwards , halves and backs and just happen to be the best of their generation who all want to play for Hull. When was the last time that happened? Maybe having local coaches is the missing ingredient??
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| Quote: B0NES "I think Ellis has been playing injured .'"
I thought he looked it on Friday, even when he has had quiet games his defence has been good, but even his defence was suspect on Friday...which makes me think he was injured and shouldn't have been out there.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: tommyfromhull "If you can't appreciate the quality of Gareth Ellis you clearly don't know what you're talking about.'"
Ellis drags in the oppositions defence but we never use him as the runner and hit Yeaman out back. We just let him barge his way in.
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| Hopefully a good off season with no Rep games , We'll see the best of Ellis again.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: B0NES "Hopefully a good off season with no Rep games , We'll see the best of Ellis again.'"
He'll be in the Eng world cup squad.
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| Quote: Sheldon "He'll be in the Eng world cup squad.'"
I'm hoping from a club pint of view. I don't think he'll feature .
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