I know we're all confused by the quota/non-fed situation however my understanding was that FC current had;

Quota: Obst, Fitz, O'Meley and Phelps
Non-fed: Fitz, O'Meley, Phelps, Moa and Hame

You can have no more than a total of 5 on each list, next year we'd have

Quota: O'Meley, Heremeia, Seymour, McKinnon, Obst (unless exempt)
Non-fed: O'Meley, Heremeia, Seymour, Mckinnon and (hopefully) Moa.

Thus if we got Obst from the quota, we would only be able to sign a federation trained quota player. I'm not sure how many of them they are about and would be unhappy if we signed one tbh - It'd be cheating the quota system IMO. The only other way taking Obst from the quota is useful is if we don't sign Moa, we could then sign a quota non federation trained player as opposed to a non quota non federation trained player.

Yes as far as he is concerned he is. I spoke to him in the gym last week and he said that he's got a few games to go and the 3rd year option auto kicks in.

Who was the last player we developed from youth to 1st team?

Tommy Lee/Craig Hall?

thanks, it's just a friend of mine's sibling is in the same class as one of his kids, and he'd said there was talk of a move back to aus but guess not now

17 games I believe it is

Cheers - Says it all really!

A club as big as ours should be developing more players than that. Is it time we had a clearout and got a better team in to do the job?

briscoe, although he is such a great talent he didn't need much developing.

Before that it was houghton, then you have to go all the way back to yeaman. 2 first team regulars in nearly 10 years is rubbish

There shouldn't be any expectation that GB standard players should be rolling off the conveyor belt every year for one thing plus the East Riding is one of the least populated areas in the country, there's only the city of Hull itself and a few outlying villages, most of the other 'big' teams have more concentrated populations.
I'm not saying that the coaching set up is as good as it could be at Hull (far from it in fact) and I think our coaching staff are not up to the job of bringing talented youngsters through and as a consequence they give up on kids too quickly because of their own defiencies. I think Craig Hall is a prime example of a super talented kid who was badly let down by the club.

Briscoe didn't come through our Youth system as such, he was already 17 when we got him from Fev Lions was he not?
In any case I'd say Tom has needed quite a bit of development to meet what his potential could be. Defensively and positionally he is still shy of where I'd like to see a finished article and I don't think the club have given him what he needs in that respect.

the massive prolem is we have talented kids in the 18s and 20s all these names to watch out for ect but the step up from 20s to super league is huge and alot of the players cant cope with that. i will say it again alot of these better young players NEED to go out and play championsip rugby and play at a better level so when they do come up to super league the diffrence isnt as much and also people need to stop bigging players up to much

He came from Fev didn't he?

Just people on here, I cannot recall anyone from Hull FC commenting one way or the other. All clubs will seek to gain any advantage they can within the rules, it just goes to show that even with your long SL history and previous youth development, you still depend on a large number of overseas players. If (as expected) Galea, Clinton and Vella go home, you could end up with more overseas players than us

Was trained up through the ranks here

Houghtons younger then them 2 and made his debut later too