I don't buy the theory Warrington lost due to tys call, yes it shouldn't have been try and the rule needs to change. But let's say it's disallowed, whose to say Rovers don't score 3 more trys and win the game comfy. Warrington missed two kicks and were camped on Rovers line for the last 10 minutes, they had there chances and failed.

Congratulations to Rovers on reaching the Grand Final. Quite an achievement four years after finishing bottom.

They have done three things we haven't - signed quality players, got them in top condition and kept them fit. That's why they are heading to Old Trafford and we finished next to bottom.

Yep, shows things can be turned around quite quickly, they haven't gone out either and spent big on transfers, getting great value from their players, smart domestic signings complimented with good overseas players. They haven't stood still either, they make tough decisions releasing Kennedy and not keeping Linnett fir example.

A couple of injury risky players signed have really worked out for them too, gives me a bit of hope.

Not convinced it's got longevity in it, but it's certainly working for them right now.

I do look at how Hadley is playing right now and wonder how Jordan Lane would look in the current Rovers side.

Another thing that frustrates me is how different the games are reffed during big games, 3 games no yellow or red cards, there were incidents in all those games that would have been yellows earlier in the season.

It's so much better to watch.

Last nights game showed two things

1. Sign quality players and in pivotal positions, create a disciplined, structured team with a genuine desire and attitude to work hard individually and as a team on all aspects including fitness you will get rewards.

2. The ‘Try / No Try’ call needs to be binned without hesitation. If the onfield official hands it over to the VR it should be the VR alone that makes the decision based on the video evidence. To hand it over as a try or no try first just makes a mockery of the game. If they hand it over, they clearly don’t know for certain, hence why they’ve sent it up, so how can they state try/no try before it goes up? Only if it’s clear a try has been scored should it be awarded not simply based on a ‘guess’ by the ref.

Exactly this, the players fight for their spot in the team every week nothing is a given, Jack broadbent wasn’t getting a look in neither was brown, both played in a semi

All I ever wanted as a fan was desire and genuine effort and above all fitness that lasted longer than 50 minutes

We have that at the moment and we’re taking nothing for granted

Hungry backrooms hungry changing rooms mixed with a bit of luck can take a team a long way

Although Sam Burgess has made decent progress as a rookie coach in his first year, Warrington still look to me like a collection of talented individuals rather than a fully integrated team.
Their game plan last night, as it has for the bulk of the year, seemed to revolve around hoping either Williams or Dufty will create a piece of magic in the middle along with Ashton's pace for finishing. It nearly came off last night but rover's scrambling defence saw them home.

Dodgy try notwithstanding, I thought the result was about right. Rovers overall teamwork and organization was the difference in the end. They work hard for each other and play until the end which is what most supporters ask of their team, and which has been sorely lacking in our side these past 3-4 years, which is probably the biggest bugbear we have amongst our many failings.

Maybe in four years time it will be us preparing for a Grand Final, who knows, but we need to start making some smart decisions across the board for that to happen. Fingers crossed the fightback starts right now for us.

I’m also uncertain about the longevity, possibly for slightly different reasons. But, for me, sport thrives on uncertainty. Meaning results of games/outcomes of seasons rather than clubs surviving… RL just has its uncertainty in the wrong place!

I’d take the kind of sustained success enjoyed by Wigan and Saints, obviously, I envy their fans in some ways, and want Rovers to aspire to excellence. But as a fan, there wouldn’t be the same types of moments. I’d learn to live with it, I’m sure, but its absence would not come as a shock.

Relating it to Hull, what this long-trailed investment looks like will be crucial. Rovers have spent well, there’s been a huge amount of hard work and some really good decision making, but Rovers have also spent more than in the past.

There’ll always have to be a threshold though. If everything goes up as no try until proven otherwise, needing clear evidence as an absolute threshold, then there’ll be outrage when tries that are nearly-certainly tries are chalked off. So… balance of probabilities? Which is a guess.

There’s as strong a case as sending everything up as a try unless proven otherwise - it’s just a question who would get the benefit of the doubt.

My guess about Burgess’s try is probably similar to yours, but it is a guess.

Hope they beat 50-0 in the final though.

I actually thought the Joe Burgess interview was quite funny, it's not his fault the try was given, good to have characters in the game rather than players coming out with the same cliches week after week, credit to the boys, we've trained hard all week etc etc

Decision making is the key, both to your current success and our current travails!!
The financial situation at our club almost certainly precludes us from making any sustained challenge at the top right now, but it wasn't the reason for the horrendous year we have just endured. That was completely down to some extremely poor decisions over a number of years across so many areas of the club's operations, particularly player recruitment, the failings of our 2024 intake being well documented on here!

Wholly agree with you about the joy of unexpected moments! I know we have discussed this before, but I'm of the opinion that some Wigan fans probably can't remember some of their titles and Challenge Cup victories due to having so many to choose from. Over the past forty years we have won four major trophies (1991, 2005, 2016/17) and every one of them is burned into my memory, four afternoons which made all the madness and frustration of following an eternally underachieving club feel worthwhile!!

I guess whatever happens next Saturday, you will remember it in detail through the years to come. It's the frission of the unexpected that over-familiarity dulls to the point of meaninglessness? I suspect next Saturday will mean more to the rovers base than it will to Wigan (unless of course you are facing Leigh whose fans will then feel exactly the same as you). I had that feeling with us in each of our major triumphs because they are not everyday occurrences for us!

If I was to give you a piece of personal advice, I would say enjoy the moment, soak it in and revel in being there (whilst trying to contain the butterflies!!). Personal experience has taught me that success can fleeting and it disappears before you have even had chance to savour it.
Maybe it will be different for you. Maybe in years to come you will also have so many titles and cup wins that you can no longer remember them (like Wigan and Saints), but right now you don't know that. For all you know in two years time you may be back amongst the mid-table throng, dreaming of days gone past or days hopefully to come again.

Like I said, grab the moment while it's here, none of us know what tomorrow may bring, unless you're a Wigan fan of course, safe in the knowledge that normal service will be resumed before too long!

Got to ask how we never could squeeze no more than two weeks at a time out of him when he was here .

Played plenty of times and even when we had a good side but never really stood out, he has been at Rovers 5 years and this is his real stand out year, maybe he has matured or something has clicked. Good look to him, very likable player and 100% effort. Shows some players just need a change or a but of confidence.