Didn't he learn from us last year?

Top 5 or 6.

Top 5 is a big ask IMO, as it means getting ahead of at least one of Saints, Wigan, Warrington, Leeds and Hudds.
There's no reason why we couldn't get 6th - But Hull, Salford and Catalans will be thinking the same. At least one of the 'second-tier' won't even make the play-offs (unless one of last season's top 5 has a very, very bad season by their own standards). There often isn't much between teams in mid-table, and Rovers, Salford and Hull have made a lot of changes that are hard to gauge at this stage.



I know what you mean.


But talking about aiming for 5th/6th is a realistic admission that we're unlikely to smash through the glass ceiling. We're rolling a lot of dice, so you never know - though of course that cuts two ways. The same is true for Hull. It's an enormous challenge.

I agree 6th is realistic for both Hull clubs, but Catalan have added a few decent signings and there good home form should make them favourites for 6th.

Salford are a difficult one to gauge, as they have signed some very temperamental players like Chase & Hock, they could look like world beaters one week, then create tabloid headlines for off the field stupidity the next. I think Noble will steer them to 8th though.

if any top clubs are going to drop off the pace I think it could be Leeds or Wire. Leeds key players are now over 30 and Wire have lost key leaders like Morley, Hodgson & Briers. Both will still be a threat on their day and in the Playoffs though.

Interesting comment by Liverpool's manager today regarding the Cardiff "saga"...

I feel sorry for Cardiff fans, they've already had their history disregarded with the change of kit, now their owner is driving out the one man that can keep them in the PL.

In fairness, the manager should never have said he wanted to sign players without checking that funds would be available before hand, he has already spent £50 million this year which was the 7th highest in the PL.

And the owner will have signed off on every penny spent

Theres another change coming soon in this city....

The Poundland Caravan Park?

Check out the video on that well known site of the Cardiff fans after the game at Anfield. That's what you call getting the message across in unity,awesome

Think the tigers could be staying in the top league

Based primarily on the $hite below them. Still half a season to go though

Based on the fact they have the best home record in the bottom half and have given a couple of the big guns a right good go . Agree on it still been early though Chris . Tbh I'm an Everton fan so not that fussed if they stay or go