Its what I think Agar will do and not what I would do. Agar seems to favour Horne over Hall. I personally would pick Hall and give him some backing. I would also only pick one of Radford/Tickle.

I agree i think Radford will get shoehorned in somehow and Agar doesnt like Hall fullstop. I was picking what i think is the strongest 17 in my opinion.

radford in front of dowes and i think graeme will be moved back into the back row for cover.

hopefully with a real good off season and having rich horne and crocker along side him in defence hall will come on.

Ahhhh thought you were putting what you would pick not what you think Agar will go with.

Does anyone think that well get rid of both Dykes and Webbo having signed Thorman?

6 Horne
7 Thorman

and cover in the form of Lee

dont wind me up ha

How would getting rid of two players who have hardly given anything to the club this year in terms of one field activity be a backward step.

Granted i dont rate Thorman that highly, but having two half backs on the field for 28-29 rounds would be better than having 43 half back combinations a year, wouldnt it?

To lose Dykes would leave us with Horne and Thorman as the only recognised "first choice" half backs, with Lee (if he is still here) and Washy/Whiting as the only real cover. If injuries strike (and I don't buy into the "it can't happen again" theory, cos that's what I thought after 2004) we are up the creek again.

We will have to agree to disagree on this issue.

Ultimately I personally think Thorman is a good player. That Webster has been let go hopefully opens the door for another signing, hopefully in the areas we are weakest.

What I find odd is the instant negativity from a fair few on here when signings are announced.

As someone else posted, is there any wonder Hull struggle to attract players?

An if Dykes stays and has the same luck again with injuries? Its money wasted in an area we could improve!

Thornman will be in the 17. I cant see the point in signing him then not playing him. I think Tickle posistion might be under threat next season. We have loads of backrowers and with Thornman playing we are not just playing him for his goal kicking. Playing Thornman does gives more options. It has been mentioned before that Sharp liked to use only 2 pivots. With us scoring the least amounts of points (i know we had injuries) do u think we will go back to 3 pivots in the team?

I'm generally positive about our signings. I just don't rate Thorman very highly and never have. Heck, I was underwhelmed when we signed him the first time.

That said, I can understand why he's been signed (as long as we actually exploit the potential benefits) and he will get my support when playing. I'll be hoping to be pleasantly surprised.