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| Quote: PAUL M "My first post wasn't aimed at you, just saw some Horne to be dropped talk and reacted. We do have options, we don't know if they are good options as yet though. Horne and Seymour need to have pressure on them and the Ellis/Nicklas will provide that.
Horne has also had little in the way of a fellow half to work with in recent years and had to shoulder all the responsibilty. He now has a partner so I would like to see him try and forge a partnership not just be dropped after one friendly.
If a few games into SL he isn't playing well then drop him but give him a chance to get something going with Seymour first.'"
Well he had a partnership today one he has trained with for a few months and he was dire!
I disagree I think we need to utilize the friendly next week, who knows it maybe a revelation or it may not unless we try though we will not know. I also firmly believe it may do Horney some good sat on a bench, it would be a massive wake up call and like mentioned if may go towards finding some consistent form from him. I do not dislike Horney I love them man but I am being realistic he is an experienced SL player and he should have produced a hell of a lot more today considering he had a quality player next to him.
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "Well he had a partnership today one he has trained with for a few months and he was dire!
I disagree I think we need to utilize the friendly next week, who knows it maybe a revelation or it may not unless we try though we will not know. I also firmly believe it may do Horney some good sat on a bench, it would be a massive wake up call and like mentioned if may go towards finding some consistent form from him. I do not dislike Horney I love them man but I am being realistic he is an experienced SL player and he should have produced a hell of a lot more today considering he had a quality player next to him.'"
Seymour hardly pulled up trees, why does he not get dropped? Or other players who have had the same preparation has Horne? Lynch should have produced more, Briscoe should the list goes on.
If Horne and Seymour are the halves Gentle wants to play against Wire then they need to play again together v Bulls. I would play them for the first 40/50 then bring in the other two. Otherwise they go into Wire with only 60 mins behind them.
He will be pressured and rightly so, every player should be. However I will see how they both go after a few games together an not after one match. I hope Gentle does too.
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| I was not there
It was a friendly
It was our first match
It means sod all come Feb 5th
Keep the faith, we have been served crap for years, been fed loads of spin, we need some time now to develope under a proper coach. Its not going to happen overnight and anyone expecting miracles is going to be very upset this is going to be a couple of season to put right. We came through he game with no injuries and the squad will gain from the day, ok they won but I want our team to win when it counts.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Seymour hardly pulled up trees, why does he not get dropped? Or other players who have had the same preparation has Horne? Lynch should have produced more, Briscoe should the list goes on.
If Horne and Seymour are the halves Gentle wants to play against Wire then they need to play again together v Bulls. I would play them for the first 40/50 then bring in the other two. Otherwise they go into Wire with only 60 mins behind them.
He will be pressured and rightly so, every player should be. However I will see how they both go after a few games together an not after one match. I hope Gentle does too.'"
Seymour gets the excuse of first game for FC, to be fair to him although I saw a little from Seymour he offered a lot more than Horney today.
I think it is a good option to see how they get on for the first half but I hope if things have not improved Gentle uses other options in the game and if they work better I hope he goes into the Wire game with the best option no matter what he has stated.
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| Altogether I though Our Performance Was Poor.. Yes Maybe Tired As Its Our First Match But I Expected A Little Better.. There Was talk of us being way ahead of schedule and we were playing good attacking rugby in training.. Where was that on the pitch??
We did kick better when we could, but once again the right hand side were attacked all the time, and sometimes they were no where to be seen. it did strengthen when martin came on though.
I think o carroll had a great game, at first thought i thought he was small to be a prop but he proved me wrong and i think he could turn out to be a great addition.
lastly, next time we play rovers. please just let sam moa sit on chris welham while reece lyne t-bags him..
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| Quote: Nobby Nolan "
In my book that attitude makes you a fairweather supporter ( hence your signatory song perhaps).
I've supported Rovers and rugby league in general for more than 40 years as well as playing at amateur level for a while.
During that time i can honestly say that, no matter if the team i played for or supported, was a friendly or competitive, the passion and desire to win remained the same.
I also have many Hull fC fans past and present who would totaly disagree with your view .
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[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Seymour hardly pulled up trees, why does he not get dropped? Or other players who have had the same preparation has Horne? Lynch should have produced more, Briscoe should the list goes on.
If Horne and Seymour are the halves Gentle wants to play against Wire then they need to play again together v Bulls. I would play them for the first 40/50 then bring in the other two. Otherwise they go into Wire with only 60 mins behind them.
He will be pressured and rightly so, every player should be. However I will see how they both go after a few games together an not after one match. I hope Gentle does too.'"
How did the back row play? Did Whiting and Green come on there?
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| Quote: Dave K. "Have to agree, only a slight concern though, be interesting to see what Gentle says.Hopefully see a big improvement next week and more the week after.'"
It's not his team!
He's taken a lot of positives out of the game!
Sorry, I'm on auto pilot after four years.
I never like losing to Rovers, however it was only a friendly and we are still above them in the league on alphabetical order. The table doesn't lie!
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| Horne won't be dropped. Gentle has just made him VC. Not so sure that was a wise move as he's effectively tied his own hands certainly for the first few rounds.
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| Quote: Sheldon "How did the back row play? Did Whiting and Green come on there?'"
Manu and Tickle were ok, would still like to see the Manu hit the ball at pace like Tickle, stood still too often. Made some breaks though. Tickle bust the line a few times too.
Whiting, Aspinwall, Green and Kent played but never really noticed them. Green dropped it first hit up but then settled down and did well for his try.
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| HORNEY HORNEY HORNEY!
Love it! Had numerous half back partners over the past couple of years, dealt with serious illness, admittedly not got the spark he once had, but to knock him and ask for him to be dropped after a friendly, with ANOTHER new half back, is laughable!
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Manu and Tickle were ok, would still like to see the Manu hit the ball at pace like Tickle, stood still too often. Made some breaks though. Tickle bust the line a few times too.
Whiting, Aspinwall, Green and Kent played but never really noticed them. Green dropped it first hit up but then settled down and did well for his try.'"
Cheers Paul, How did Westerman play?
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| Quote: Sheldon "Cheers Paul, How did Westerman play?'"
Very poor, hardly saw him tbh.
Biggest difference between the sides was the hookers surprisingly. They got out quick and brought on their forwards on short, sharp balls either side on the ptb. It got them cheap yards. It was a tactic which worked, I expected to see Heremaia getting out and engaging the defenders before passing but he mainly just passed although did defend well. Houghton did his usual. That combo along with Horne and Seymour clearly needs more work. We still need to move the ball quicker and convert our breaks into tries. We could should have been 18-0 up in 10 mins.
A work in progress i'd say, it's gonna take time.
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| Quote: His Bobness "Today Hull were out played, out enthused and out coached.
No change there then.'"
Might as well get the trophy cabinet ready for Rovers again.
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| I still think Horne should have been developed as a fullback. His skills are, good runner with ball in hand, good stepper & decent defence.
A half back needs to be an expert, kicker, passer, runner & organiser.
The fact Rich struggles in a couple of these areas means more pressure lies on the shoulders of his half back partner.
How many times do you think Craig Hall has practiced at 6 in pre season for rovers before Green became injured?
Yet he & Dobson shared the responsibility & ran the game easily.
I don't think people are knocking Horne, but he's had 10 years in that position & there has always been debate as to wether that's his best position.
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