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| Quote: hullbg "I don;t think he has earned another year. Effectively all he has done is give us 6 more wins this season and they have not exactly been emphatic wins either.'"
Maybe the opposition has improved on last season (I actually believe it has). When all is said and done last season we finished 11 this year 6th (very unlucky to miss out on 4th), no matter how posters dress it up the maths speak for themselves we have improved.
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| Quote: PAUL M "He has said nothing wrong.'"
Neither did Cod'ead really, I just thought you jumped on his comment a bit. With Agar saying our squad will have more balance and cover when we've only had confirmation of it being smaller, it's perfectly reasonable to wonder where from.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Maybe the opposition has improved on last season (I actually believe it has). When all is said and done last season we finished 11 this year 6th (very unlucky to miss out on 4th), no matter how posters dress it up the maths speak for themselves we have improved.'"
Not denying we have improved and so we should have we the players we brought in the fact is our rugby has not really progressed this season. We have continued to play the same type of rugby no matter what the score of the game is. That to me is down to poor coaching one way or another.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Maybe the opposition has improved on last season (I actually believe it has).'"
I think possibly the top 3 have, but TBH the rest of SL as a whole has steadily deteriorated for the last 2 or 3 seasons.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Neither did Cod'ead really, I just thought you jumped on his comment a bit. With Agar saying our squad will have more balance and cover when we've only had confirmation of it being smaller, it's perfectly reasonable to wonder where from.'"
Are you Dave's minder? I never said he did do anything wrong.
How did I jump on him, all I did was answer his question. When the recruitment is finalised and announced then we will be able to give our opinions on it. As to where it comes from, that's RA and the clubs problem and what they get paid to do.
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| "We have far too few players with genuine rugby brains, a poor kicking game, and as soon as we come under any pressure revert straight back to one out rugby.
2, We have no flexibility in our approach to games. If things are not going our way we still don't/can't change anything and the game continues to drift away from us."
Funny McRae was saying that if your Plan A is not working you need to have a Plan B, C & D and I think most fans will agree we have a Plan A, A & A
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| Quote: hullbg "Not denying we have improved and so we should have we the players we brought in the fact is our rugby has not really progressed this season. We have continued to play the same type of rugby no matter what the score of the game is. That to me is down to poor coaching one way or another.'"
Maybe the first step was to get a strong pack and stop getting beat every week. Maybe RA thought we needed to become hard to beat, which we have in the main, and use it as a base.
With a more settled squad for next season apart form the odd addition maybe he can now develop the philosphy further and become a better footballing side rather than just hard to beat. Perhaps that is why he is targetting players with ball skills and kicking skills.
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| Quote: hullbg "Not denying we have improved and so we should have we the players we brought in the fact is our rugby has not really progressed this season. We have continued to play the same type of rugby no matter what the score of the game is. That to me is down to poor coaching one way or another.'"
I disagree, for me the crux of the problems have been the h/backs or lack of them.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Maybe the first step was to get a strong pack and stop getting beat every week. Maybe RA thought we needed to become hard to beat, which we have in the main, and use it as a base.
With a more settled squad for next season apart form the odd addition maybe he can now develop the philosphy further and become a better footballing side rather than just hard to beat. Perhaps that is why he is targetting players with ball skills and kicking skills.'"
I agree, however my biggest concern is our h/backs fitness etc.
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| Have we become hard to beat though? Maybe at home to a point but away from home we have been as poor as the previous season. The amount of close defeats we suffered last season compared to the amount of close wins we have had this season tells me very little has changed except we are sneaking those tight close games more.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "I agree, however my biggest concern is our h/backs fitness etc.'"
Think everyone can see that and with the two we have I don't see them playing much more than they have this year (although Long has been unlucky)
If we do not recruit a halfback for next season we won't do well.
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| Quote: Punos "Think everyone can see that and with the two we have I don't see them playing much more than they have this year (although Long has been unlucky)
If we do not recruit a halfback for next season we won't do well.'"
Agree....mind you s0ds law we will recruit and Longy & Horney will both have injury free cracking seasons
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| Quote: PAUL M "Are you Dave's minder? I never said he did do anything wrong.
How did I jump on him, all I did was answer his question. When the recruitment is finalised and announced then we will be able to give our opinions on it. As to where it comes from, that's RA and the clubs problem and what they get paid to do.'"
Maybe I read too much into it then, fair enough.
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| Quote: hullbg "Have we become hard to beat though? Maybe at home to a point but away from home we have been as poor as the previous season. The amount of close defeats we suffered last season compared to the amount of close wins we have had this season tells me very little has changed except we are sneaking those tight close games more.'"
I'd say we're harder to break down this year, but once you've figured out how (getting the ball wide quickly) you can score points for fun and we won't change anything to stop you.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Maybe I read too much into it then, fair enough.'"
No worries, think we are all a bit touchy right now.
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