after hearing what gwyllum llyod, murdoch and pinkney said to us in the services at heartshead moor regarding the thaler/hudgell incident i would beg to differ! any other sport or job thaler would've and should've been sacked!

How was the ref today in your game , was he poor in 50/50 way or poor in a favourable to leeds way ..?

What was said ?

Even Leeds?

Yep, even Leeds. We had some calls go our way (disallowed Ablett Try, nothing wrong with it). Yes, they threw their usual amount of forward passes,especially for McGuires first try but as I said at the start of the thread we need two refs to try and combat this.

I am not sure 2 refs will actually help towards solving the problem tbh, we definitely need investment but I think we would be better fixed investing in training more refs to SL standard, I actually think they are not as accountable as they should be as we simply do not have the numbers to drop under-performing refs. I try not to get involved in ref bashing however this season has been particularly poor and very inconsistent and like many I now actually get slightly worried when certain refs are allocated our games.

Bet

It is a worry but the 2nd ref can watch for forward passes and messing about at the play the ball whilst the other gets the defending team back 10. It should at least be trialed.

I hear what you are saying but we already have 2 touch judges who get paid to do that, tbh that is also one of the major problems the touch judges are next to useless and I have even witnessed refs over-ruling them! The investment needs to sort these things out, at the moment we are struggling for 1 decent ref so 2 would be a big ask, investment needs to come in the form of training and bringing new blood through, there has to be accountability and like mentioned without more refs little can be done as the games need covering.

you honestly believe L**ds get refereed the same way as Hull do?

Yes because I am not paranoid

Looks like another clown took the field at the rovers game at weekend, unfortunatly he forgot his red nose and oversized feet.

Didn't hear Rovers fans having ago at Manchester. When Ganston missed a forward pass. It was ok that Hull got robbed

Hardly any point is there? All I'll end up doing is as I've done for numerous years - arguing the toss against clueless numpties like you, who come on here and pi[is[/is and moan and offer nothing even approaching a solution to what, I have always acknowledged, is a problem within the game.

The difference being the way any problems are approached. At best, most come up with a Band-Aid solution (two refs etc with no thought of where they are to come from), you rarely even stretch your limited intellect that far. At least I have, on the previous threads, offered something positive that could be done to improve what is a crucially important aspect of our game.

And in future, when I want your opinion, I'll give you it

Maybe not cheat, but I honestly think that Ganson likes to give controversial calls to 'spice up' the game or to become the centre of attention. Regardless of what teams are playing.