Everyone knows plans exist. Its the content and the fact he will not disclose them to important deal brokers that's the issue. Do you not see that and are you actually going to bother answering any questions or just continue blind defense? (which is what Allam appears to be doing to be fair)

No knickers twisted this side of the debate. I suspect that could be what's causing some of the less open minded their discomfort.

Not that it matters as far as debate on a public board goes, but who says who I really support? (the discussion's been had before) but as far as the topic goes, it's hardly a massive issue for Hull FC, especially in comparison to the City and region I live in.

He didn't get to the opportunity to even talk to the 'deal brokers'.

How poor must that look to any other potential investors.


For anyone else reading, lose any idea I'm defending Mr Alam, I've mentioned a few times where he has his share of the blame. My issue is with how it's been dealt with.

Thought maybe the St Helens and Gateshead fan on your sig was a bit of a clue.

No, just a red herring.

How is it then that Abramovich is reported to have spent around £1 million looking at ways to increase the capaticify of Stamford bridge or evening building a new stadium somewhere else yet rhe saviour of Hull has only spent £3k on plans for a £120 million sports village.There's the difference between who knows what they're doing and some idiot egyptian living in cloud cuckoo land.

Yeah your right,we have all seen it.Writen on the back of a cig packet.

We paid more for plans to sell the City's Bus Compay off
And buyers had to submit they offers in writting
There was no way that much money involved
Thing have to be done in the right way .If thing go wrong
Its not you or I that take the blame it's the Councilers who make
the deal that get it in the neck .We are the people who pay for any errors

Will you shut up about bl00dy buses!

BTW has Stagecoach taken over the Hessle park n ride Mr busman?

You must see the problem with his approach though. Dismissing the project out of sight on the basis the council will not automatically hand over the stadium site for a massive knock down price. Allam claims to want the freehold to borrow against. I would question whether any major lender would be happy to use as sporting venue as security on a loan. If Allam defaults then the lender gets to repossess a building which has extremely restricted use and not real sell on value.

What will look poor to potential investors is the main instigators attitude, afterall, would YOU go into a business proposition with him?

I also doubt that this project would raiset he profile of the city or even provide the many jobs some seem to suggest it would.

Allam is his own worst enemy on this. Threatening to take Hull City to Melton was a childish and ill thought out comment which I can only imagine he wishes he never made. Effectively the Council have called his bluff on this.

At the of the day if he is as wealthy has some would live to thing and his has the finances to fund his Melton project, you would think someone with 40 plus years in the business world would realise that making throw away comment doesn't work unless you are dealing with small business's.

What ever you think of the individuals at the council, they have to protect teh interests of more than just a very small number of people who are trying to profiteer.

Well thanks for all the explainations, its nice to be in the company of the intelligencia, and I really appreciate them. I saw what you call the plans first hand a few month ago on the desk at a local media office. We all agreed at the time they they were a fine idea and good for the City but certainly as artistes impressions, which didn't even indicate what a lot of the buildings were to be used for, they were no basis for a local authority to hand over a £43m Stadium. I have not changed my mind on that one. As for me getting my facts right well I always base my comments on what I know or have seen and I still believe that producing such artistes impressions and then refusing to show them to the Council, is not the way to get this moving. Nor is calling the Council in newspapers and public lectures!

We should all be Ruscador-ing to Allam Tempest-ing to invest in the City rather than East Yorkshire.

What are you talking about? He's met with the council on several occasions, the last one being the 3 hour meeting the other week. The stalemate is caused by [ihim[/i being reluctant to talk practically and constructively during these meetings. Issues such as his refusal to show his drawings to the people he wants to give him the stadium for promises with about as much substance as a cigarette paper have made the council cautious as to his true intentions. His fault. Or are you calling Cllr Geraghty a liar?

He's blown it. Move on.

Your view is completely myopic and leans totally in allam's favour. Unless you have been present at these meetings you don't have the 1st idea what went on so are not in a position to comment

so, he has bought a squash tournament without having firm plans as to where he is hosting it, an unusual approach by a sports governing body to award their flagship event to someone without a confirmed venue in place, having worked with the squash governing body in a "previous life" I find it incredibly dubious, I wonder how much in sponsorhip this cost?