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Quote: Dave K. "Fans will stay if recruitment is right as the moment its very 50/50 ans very dependent on the next couple of signings.

Seasons of false promises from Pearson, fans won't believe him and will wait until recruitment is done, so he is wasting his time with these statements, it has to be backed up.'"


said last week its time for Lord Lucan Pearson to come on with the rallying call and he didnt disappoint..
Trouble is he could have just cut and pasted what he said last last season about recruitment.
I would have waited though till after the London game
Win and he gets a better response
Lose and he can say nothing for a couple of weeks and work on his speech

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Just to give an idea of the difference, the NRL receive over $400m (aussie, £200m ish in real money) a year for media rights. SL got what? £27m over 3 years? It's not even remotely comparable'"


They also dont stand still and have just appointed a Marketing executive.
the role is

About the role
As part of the Fan Experience team, success in this role will see you deliver effective sales and marketing strategies across all consumer products to major events and deliver impactful marketing campaigns to drive commercial sales, brand health, and audience growth.

This is what we need instead of the Spreadsheet Charlies at IMG
Marketing is key to growing any business and R/L is no different yet the RFL dont seem to understand the importance of Marketing yet are prepared to spend circa £500,000 with IMG with no meaningful return

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Quote: bonaire "They also dont stand still and have just appointed a Marketing executive.
the role is

About the role
As part of the Fan Experience team, success in this role will see you deliver effective sales and marketing strategies across all consumer products to major events and deliver impactful marketing campaigns to drive commercial sales, brand health, and audience growth.

This is what we need instead of the Spreadsheet Charlies at IMG
Marketing is key to growing any business and R/L is no different yet the RFL dont seem to understand the importance of Marketing yet are prepared to spend circa £500,000 with IMG with no meaningful return'"


I remember for the 2013 World Cup Semis at Wembley the game paid to use a marketing agency and the result was a big 67k crowd and the game was superb so any new fans would have gone home excited about RL. Did England book a new game at home quicky and get the agency back on board to promote? No they didn't play at home for 2 years icon_rolleyes.gif

SL should be centrally managing the billboard, bus stop, radio ads etc most of the clubs aren't capable. The game seems to just email a database of emails addresses it started in the 00s and that's that

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Quote: Blackandwhitebigdog "There is an investor. Don't need to worry about that!'"


There is an investor not doubting that but how much more does he intend to invest?

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Quote: Jake the Peg "if there wasn't an investor we wouldn't have myler here and smith would still be coach. pele, okunbor and tindall would have continued to serve up championship performances in our 1st team'"


We paid off likely much bigger contracts in Reynolds, Evans, Fonua etc when we were not hiding the fact we were skint. I honestly have no idea the type of wages that Ock and Pele were on but maybe we didn’t take too much of a hit. Bradford wanted them and they’ve seemingly thrown a decent amount of cash recently for players.

Smiths position was simply untenable really, there’s no way Pearson could have stuck with him investor or no investor. Teams in financial trouble have sacked coaches before as they gamble to get results.

I’m not claiming to be in the know but the hinting at investment has done the job and took some of the pressure off and I certainly sympathise if it was just a ploy, I want AP to do whatever it takes to keep us going as a club. The word toxic has been thrown about a lot recently but if we’d have carried on without the changes in April the club would be beyond toxic.

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Quote: fosdyke99 "i ll admit the nrl run their game far better than us.the teams they have added over the years[without promotion or relegation] have been really succesful,melbourne,newcastle,gold coast,brisbane,new zealand warriors,north queensland cowboys .40 years ago the the nrl just consisted of just 10 teams based in sydney.great expansion our efforts in comparison have been a total disaster.london in any guise,mansfield,north wales,gateshead,,newcastle,catalan,,toronto,scarbouogh to name just a few...never worked and never will.'"


The problem with RL expansion is a lack of money and patience. I actually think Crusaders were onto something in Wrexham. As the Hollywood Football owners have spotted it's a big town with not a lot going on and a wider catchment area to the north Wales coast to attract. But by the time Crusaders ended up there money was tight, there was a drama over visas and it all ended just as they were making the playoffs on the field.

Catalan has worked but crucially they were playing RL there for like 100 years and the 3 years exemption from relegated let them plan and build.

Toronto was a complete farce never going to work with those travel distances and they couldnt even play at home for the first few weeks of a season.

With the benefit of hindsight Maurice Lyndsey was into something when he suggested SL needed teams in big catchment areas but soon as the word merger was used there was uproar. Had SL just created new teams in Cumbria, Manchester, Newcastle and Liverpool and got on with it who knows where the game would be.

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Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "There is an investor not doubting that but how much more does he intend to invest?'"


We dont know but it doesnt cost money to sign new players pre season so in reality he has spent nothing unless as part of the deal he has paid something up front to Lord Lucan

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Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "There is an investor not doubting that but how much more does he intend to invest?'"


Two more marquee signings I think!

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Quote: Blackandwhitebigdog "Two more marquee signings I think!'"


I'll bookmark that icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "I'll bookmark that
I'm saying this is how much more investment we need. If we get that is different.

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My gut instinct is the investor will take over at least a majority share and Pearson will step down to be just CEO.

Something prompted those changes after Easter. If we were doing things on the cheap then just sacking Smith and appointing Grix would have been the plan. Instead we've recruited an NRL coach and made a number of changes to the squad. And of course Myler being appointed with no experience and no links to the club but a rich future father in law is too coincidental.

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I over heard that the new investor will take full control with Adam staying for two years as CEO to ensure a smooth transition as he knows the club!

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Quote: Blackandwhitebigdog "I over heard that the new investor will take full control with Adam staying for two years as CEO to ensure a smooth transition as he knows the club!'"


Thats fairly standard practice in a takeover to keep the previous owner on for 2/3 years and make part of the package earnout related based on the profits of the earnout period so that there is some incentive rather than just going through the motions

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AP did say that Smith would be his last coaching apppointment so that either meant Smith had a job for life or plans were in place then for AP to relinquish control of the club

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Quote: Markyboy69 "AP did say that Smith would be his last coaching apppointment so that either meant Smith had a job for life or plans were in place then for AP to relinquish control of the club'"


Or more then likely IMO he just genuinely believed with Smiths record he would do a good job for 2-4 years or whatever and then let him take the DOR role after so he’s be appointing the coaches for the foreseeable after that, which I believe was the plan.

Even if it didn’t go smoothly on the field, I think AP was of the opinion (As 99% of the fanbase) the squad needed a major overhaul and he would back TS with the rebuild regardless of a few bumps in the road and short term pain. I just don’t think he predicted just how badly things would go, he had to act and that in hindsight made his comments look a little silly.

When he made that statement I think he was bullish about appointing a ‘proven head coach’ that Hull fans had literally been banging on and on about for 20 years non stop. I don’t think you can read too much into it, as we know AP has often got a little carried away in the media with this kind of thing. Think it was said with good intentions.

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