Far too early to be saying that Wakefield will likely finish above us.

Particularly with pivots of Jowitt, Lino, Russell, Doyle and Pitts. I'm sure they will sign other players to strengthen, but yes as you say a but early to make that statement.

No but the Romans were great builders and knew what they were doing

I said maybe not think we will finish 6 th

What have the romans ever done for us?

6th? Are you serious? No chance will there be 6 worse teams than us next year. Unless we pull some major signings out of the bag, 9th will be the best we can hope for

Depends on what impact Cartwright can have on the squad, Holbrook transformed saints with roughly the same squad left from cunningham and most of that was due to the systems put in place by the coach. FWIW I reckon around 8th for us next year can be seen as acceptable progress.

Agree, top 5 is well ahead, but don't see much in the rest to say we could finish above them, probably unlikely to get 6th.

Last 2 quota spots are really key, pretty happy with the pack, but backs look weak.

Gotta love the blind optimism of some of our fan base

There is no reason we can’t finish 4th-6th
That’s if JC is the correct coach
There’s a few recent examples of teams doing well under new coaches such as Leigh and scumbags.
If we beat dobbins in their GF on July 14th then it just shows how quick things can turn around
If the Coach is right then I’m always optimistic

“welease Wohan”

Seems nice for a change rather than outright pessimism from others

Realism v delusionism

You say realism but you can’t deny the impact 1 or 2 top quota spots can have on a side.

Should Asiata be fit for the whole season, we replace Pele (and Okunbor) with class imports and Rimbu ends up going well. 6-8 is easily achievable.

A lot of if’s but you can’t say it won’t happen. Cartwright had been around a fair while and has an in-depth knowledge of the NRL player pool.

Only issue is NRL vs SL needs an entirely different style of player

Yippee said around 8th.

I’d hardly call that delusional