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| Quote: ccs "Grade C, 3 matches for lifting the player off the ground.
Grade D, "Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) -
Other contrary behaviour", tribunal.
I had it down as a reckless incident with a 2 match ban, but I did wonder if the lifting of an injured player off the ground would be looked at in a bad light and might occur a separate charge.
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| 8 matches at a guess
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| Also points out that Wynne did literally nothing wrong and was given a yellow card for no reason (which we already knew).
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| Quote: scarrie "Laughable'"
Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.
The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.
Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.
So what recourse of action can we expect form the RFL for the incorrect decision to not only penalise Wynn but to also issue a yellow card? As usual nothing will be done and the RFL will just bury their heads and they wonder why a lot of fans think the sport is corrupt.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.
The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.
Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.'"
So Hurrel committed the exact same offence that both Austin and Dwyer have been sin binned and for and received a match ban in recent weeks, and he gets nothing. Absolute ing joke this sport.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.
The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.
Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.
So what recourse of action can we expect form the RFL for the incorrect decision to not only penalise Wynn but to also issue a yellow card? As usual nothing will be done and the RFL will just bury their heads and they wonder why a lot of fans think the sport is corrupt.'"
Regarding Konrad, do you remember Dean Hadley copping a three match ban in a Derby a few years back, for the offence of shoving someone in a vulnerable position, I’m no conspiracy merchant, but as I posted last week, the recent clampdown on players discipline only seems pertinent to certain clubs.
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| Quote: Hasbag "So Hurrel committed the exact same offence that both Austin and Dwyer have been sin binned and for and received a match ban in recent weeks, and he gets nothing. Absolute loving joke this sport.'"
Exactly its a joke as the officials and RFL Disciplinary just aren't even handed nor consistent the only consistency they have is in inconsistency.
Reckon Gale will be given at least 8 games as a example despite his previous good record which only seems to count if you play for St's, Leeds or Wigan.
Pity they don't charge Welsby with a grade C for 'behaving in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) –
Other contrary behaviour' as that was clear as day he played for the penalty and feigned being hurt.
Also the wording on Matty Lees charge in that he only had eyes on the ball so is that a defence every player can use as if so surely Gale only had eyes on the ball but only made contact at the last moment Lomax's leg suddenly appeared in front of him.
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| I love the James Roby one.
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Player is wrapping the ball. Opponent dips head. Contact is head to arm
Like to see a player from a Yorkshire club get the same treatment.
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| Quote: Chris71 "
Pity they don't charge Welsby with a grade C for 'behaving in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) –.'"
That’s clearly not cheating if you’re a Saints player.
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| This what the panel said...
Quote: "Player is not lifted into a dangerous position. Player holds a leg in a stationery tackle.
Opponent contributes and rolls himself to the floor'" .
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| Quote: Chris71 "
Also the wording on Matty Lees charge in that he only had eyes on the ball
They're actually saying that Swift commits the misconduct by getting in the path of Lees.
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| Do you know our club, as crap as we are at the moment, took around 2000 fans to Wakey, what’s that around £50,000 in the opponents coffers, we may not be the darlings of the RFL, but that’s something these biased people would do well to remember. Without both Hull clubs, rugby league would be done.
Keep up the good work Cullen.
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| Quote: Mike1970 "I love the James Roby one.
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Exactly how many times have teams like ourselves, Rovers, Wakey etc had players banned for tackles deemed high when the player being tackled ducked or was falling at the point of impact. The Liam Watts one a few years ago when still playing for us being a classic example where the opposing player actually fell in to Watts yet he was binned and received a ban.
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| And we all thought it would be injuries that would stop Gale & Reynolds playing a full season as a half back pairing.
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| Why do people always whinge about the RFL hating us, call the disciplinary a joke etc.
Gale's foot up / studs first action was always going to end up with a ban. Complete brainfart. Then he made it worse by pulling Lomax up. If it had been the other way around the same people would be calling for a ban.
I guess it'll be five matches plus the three so he'll be back for late April or early May - unless the RFL rule the bans run concurrently which doesn't seem likely.
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