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| Quote: bonaire "Problem is
You can Buy size
You can buy power
But you cant beat pace which is what Wigan,Saints,Leeds and Cas have in abdundance'"
Can you not buy pace then !
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| Its interesting to note that Hull FC are currently the 3rd best in the league and only behind the top two (St's & Pie's) in pts for.
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| Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "Radders has a philosophy in his coaching, big bad & dominant, we play this way, his teams are molded this way, his recruiting is based on this, it’s a simple method, and after two successful Challenge Cup campaigns “yes yes two of them” we were undone in two Play off semis, both of them Wigan & Leeds nail biters, and with a little luck both winnable. We are in a mess at present with injuries, and of course the team makes errors and mistakes, all teams do, sorry bumpy, credit were it’s due, our young coach has done a super job for us all, you are entitled to your opinions, I respect this, and if people are so incensed by them, there is an option to ignore, come on you ull.'"
I have no problem around using x method/way of thinking to bring about the end goal, always more than one way to skin a cat. In so far as the 'power' game we predominantly play we've done well and Radford has built up a side to fit that 'philosophy.
However this comes undone when teams get injuries, particularly in the forwards in which you rely on so much and to set the tone, it also narrows your threat because you're so reliant on that mode of play. This has been highlighted by many and the fact, yes fact our red zone attack is too often just clueless rubbish.
Additionally you ignore my particular criticisms, repeating same mistakes/errors/discipline, again most on here say all that every match thread, that's the coaches inability to coach that out for whatever reason.
My other criticism was regarding the youth, I've pointed out and explained fully what I believe are his failings on that as I have everything else. I give plenty of praise but you like others don't want to acknowledge I've said good stuff about Radford.
Time and again people on here say Radford needs an attack coach, time and again posters say he need to address mistakes/errors/discipline, but he doesn't, he won't acknowledge his weaknesses and that's holding us back.
As for the losing two semis, if Radford hadn't punched Bailey we could have been in the GF, if Shaul outpaces Charnley in'13 we'd likely have won the CC wíth a team half full of rookies, we got massively gortunate with injurues in '16, if we hadn't we would't likely have won the CC. It's all ifs and buts,
ATEOTD I want more, everyone said we need to 'kick on' from 2016, we haven't, many say we've gone backwards, Radford in my honest opinion will not take us forward as things stand. Either a change here and there and better understanding of the issues holding us back that he can control or he gets help to do that, currently it's neither.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "I have no problem around using x method/way of thinking to bring about the end goal, always more than one way to skin a cat. In so far as the 'power' game we predominantly play we've done well and Radford has built up a side to fit that 'philosophy.
However this comes undone when teams get injuries, particularly in the forwards in which you rely on so much and to set the tone, it also narrows your threat because you're so reliant on that mode of play. This has been highlighted by many and the fact, yes fact our red zone attack is too often just clueless rubbish.
Additionally you ignore my particular criticisms, repeating same mistakes/errors/discipline, again most on here say all that every match thread, that's the coaches inability to coach that out for whatever reason.
My other criticism was regarding the youth, I've pointed out and explained fully what I believe are his failings on that as I have everything else. I give plenty of praise but you like others don't want to acknowledge I've said good stuff about Radford.
Time and again people on here say Radford needs an attack coach, time and again posters say he need to address mistakes/errors/discipline, but he doesn't, he won't acknowledge his weaknesses and that's holding us back.
As for the losing two semis, if Radford hadn't punched Bailey we could have been in the GF, if Shaul outpaces Charnley in'13 we'd likely have won the CC wíth a team half full of rookies, we got massively gortunate with injurues in '16, if we hadn't we would't likely have won the CC. It's all ifs and buts,
ATEOTD I want more, everyone said we need to 'kick on' from 2016, we haven't, many say we've gone backwards, Radford in my honest opinion will not take us forward as things stand. Either a change here and there and better understanding of the issues holding us back that he can control or he gets help to do that, currently it's neither.'"
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "I have no problem around using x method/way of thinking to bring about the end goal, always more than one way to skin a cat. In so far as the 'power' game we predominantly play we've done well and Radford has built up a side to fit that 'philosophy.
However this comes undone when teams get injuries, particularly in the forwards in which you rely on so much and to set the tone, it also narrows your threat because you're so reliant on that mode of play. This has been highlighted by many and the fact, yes fact our red zone attack is too often just clueless rubbish.
Additionally you ignore my particular criticisms, repeating same mistakes/errors/discipline, again most on here say all that every match thread, that's the coaches inability to coach that out for whatever reason.
My other criticism was regarding the youth, I've pointed out and explained fully what I believe are his failings on that as I have everything else. I give plenty of praise but you like others don't want to acknowledge I've said good stuff about Radford.
Time and again people on here say Radford needs an attack coach, time and again posters say he need to address mistakes/errors/discipline, but he doesn't, he won't acknowledge his weaknesses and that's holding us back.
As for the losing two semis, if Radford hadn't punched Bailey we could have been in the GF, if Shaul outpaces Charnley in'13 we'd likely have won the CC wíth a team half full of rookies, we got massively gortunate with injurues in '16, if we hadn't we would't likely have won the CC. It's all ifs and buts,
ATEOTD I want more, everyone said we need to 'kick on' from 2016, we haven't, many say we've gone backwards, Radford in my honest opinion will not take us forward as things stand. Either a change here and there and better understanding of the issues holding us back that he can control or he gets help to do that, currently it's neither.'"
As I have never engaged with you regarding our coach and his qualities, how could I offer any opinion of your praise, and good stuff, You are possibly mixing me up with another poster.
Let’s for arguments sake, give you the praise you desire, is this a Freudian method you use, cutting off your arm, but still wanting your thumbs.
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| Quote: DGM "
I only count 23 holes in that block of cheese.
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| Quote: DGM "
enlighten me as to the holes? Nothing I or indeed what plenty of others have said all season and indeed last season is untrue. But whatever, you like others can only throw insults and post childish images/imojis because you haven't got the capability of formulating a reasoned argument, more importantly because you haven't got anything other than vapid crud to spout.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "enlighten me as to the holes? Nothing I or indeed what plenty of others have said all season and indeed last season is untrue. But whatever, you like others can only throw insults and post childish images/imojis because you haven't got the capability of formulating a reasoned argument, more importantly because you haven't got anything other than vapid crud to spout.'"
Aren't you on a warning for personal attacks? I think Standee got a permanent ban for it.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "enlighten me as to the holes? Nothing I or indeed what plenty of others have said all season and indeed last season is untrue. But whatever, you like others can only throw insults and post childish images/imojis because you haven't got the capability of formulating a reasoned argument, more importantly because you haven't got anything other than vapid crud to spout.'"
Don't let them get you down mate.
We are no longer [ichallenging[/i for silverware, or [iwithin reach of the top four.[/i
Radford has achieved both, two years in a row.
Beyond your wildest dreams I'd have thought?
Be happy, don't worry.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Aren't you on a warning for personal attacks? I think Standee got a permanent ban for it.'"
Poor old p.collinson.
The only poster on here that made the Lord Mayor of Letchworth sound bright.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Its interesting to note that Hull FC are currently the 3rd best in the league and only behind the top two (St's & Pie's) in pts for.'"
That can't be right when our only attacking option is a Sneyd kick to Talanoa.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "That can't be right when our only attacking option is a Sneyd kick to Talanoa.
We do score a lot of tries from kicks but it's our defence that's the problem, not the attack (at least when we have a fit squad). saints and wigan are miles ahead of us defensively and I reckon they'll be the ones fighting it out at season's end
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "We do score a lot of tries from kicks but it's our defence that's the problem, not the attack (at least when we have a fit squad). saints and wigan are miles ahead of us defensively and I reckon they'll be the ones fighting it out at season's end'"
Makes sense. Bigger clubs with far fewer injuries generally prevail.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "I have no problem around using x method/way of thinking to bring about the end goal, always more than one way to skin a cat. In so far as the 'power' game we predominantly play we've done well and Radford has built up a side to fit that 'philosophy.
However this comes undone when teams get injuries, particularly in the forwards in which you rely on so much and to set the tone, it also narrows your threat because you're so reliant on that mode of play. This has been highlighted by many and the fact, yes fact our red zone attack is too often just clueless rubbish.
Additionally you ignore my particular criticisms, repeating same mistakes/errors/discipline, again most on here say all that every match thread, that's the coaches inability to coach that out for whatever reason.
My other criticism was regarding the youth, I've pointed out and explained fully what I believe are his failings on that as I have everything else. I give plenty of praise but you like others don't want to acknowledge I've said good stuff about Radford.
Time and again people on here say Radford needs an attack coach, time and again posters say he need to address mistakes/errors/discipline, but he doesn't, he won't acknowledge his weaknesses and that's holding us back.
As for the losing two semis, if Radford hadn't punched Bailey we could have been in the GF, if Shaul outpaces Charnley in'13 we'd likely have won the CC wíth a team half full of rookies, we got massively gortunate with injurues in '16, if we hadn't we would't likely have won the CC. It's all ifs and buts,
ATEOTD I want more, everyone said we need to 'kick on' from 2016, we haven't, many say we've gone backwards, Radford in my honest opinion will not take us forward as things stand. Either a change here and there and better understanding of the issues holding us back that he can control or he gets help to do that, currently it's neither.'"
Zzzzz
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "We do score a lot of tries from kicks but it's our defence that's the problem, not the attack (at least when we have a fit squad). saints and wigan are miles ahead of us defensively and I reckon they'll be the ones fighting it out at season's end'"
Our defence has certainly been poorer this season, our scramble and goal line defence still seems ok and about the same as last year. Think we are definitely softer on the edges (how many times have the wingers jumped out/come in for no reason?) but we also have been allowing teams easy metres as we tend wait once the opposition has ptb instead of moving up as soon as they play it.
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