Do you really stand by woeful performances?

We've won 7 and lost 13 with 1 draw, including 2 stuffing's by the Pie's. Now with that record you'd expect to be well into negative points difference, but we're still plus 43, a better points difference than the five teams above us.

I'd say more inability to win matches we should/could have, rather than woeful performances.

Woeful performances aren't always the games we get stuffed in. Widnes at the KC was a woeful performance for example.

So was the 2nd half against Wakey.

Everyone knows how high we would be up the table if we had won most of the games we have lost by 1 try or less. But even if we had won these games the level of performance, skill and entertain is still woeful.

Not every performance has been woeful, but we've played woeful much more often than we've played well.

We're on Sky on Thursday , I'm sure they'll be plenty of fans telling Radford he's past his sell by date .

Its going to be cringe worthy Thursday night watching it in the pub, worst sl attendance for us, and the booing and Radford out chants. Its going to be a sad night

Thats what I'm looking forward to. If we win, it's a sticking plaster over a bullet wound. If we win the remaining games, then what?

Radford is going nowhere. The club was left with a mess post-McRae and this season unfortunately has become a 'going backwards to go forwards' season. It's sport, sometimes it has to suck before the good times come along. We've come through worse times before, we'll come through this. Ride out the storm, allow the reshaping to happen, with an exciting half-back partnership and some very promising youngsters, things will soon right themselves.

Pearson gives Radford the Guildhall clock

If Radford is still head coach then nothing will right itself

Well it seems that Radford has Jamie Peacock trained to perfection, at least.

I've just watched the tries from Friday night on the SL show and have to say it was pathetice. Looked to me a very similar display of no effort at all from the players as we saw at huddersfield last season. Thank god wigan only had a bunch of kids playing and didn't click until the half hour mark or it could have been far, far worse. Looked to me like none of the players were interested in tackling

just wondering, would you take a Hull FC team winning games and playing(play-offs etc) "woeful" or playing good rugby but losing(hanging where we are now)?

Right now I'd take one or the other, however it's a flawed question as "good rugby" will invariably lead to wins