Forget it pal - subconsciously biased and cheap and flawed. Oh and stuck in an opinion. It's like arguing with Standee.

Ouch, that's a bit below the belt.

The subconscious bias wasn't meant with any malice, I just genuinely think it's a possibility. As you yourself said, you try to call as you see it and usually I really believe that is the case. That's why I said I'm amazed you think Whiting's been better than Westerman, I wouldn't have expected you to.

Cheap and flawed was because using the derby to ridicule an opinion held about Lynch's form several games beforehand felt like a cheap shot.

Here's a funny thing - Daniel Holdsworth is tweeting about The Voice again. He's in Australia, isn't he?

Did he like the Welsh fella?

Yes that's right Gentle and Hay were sat next to a hologram at Belle View

Heard a rumour tonight about Shaul heading down under

Don't worry, I think he's just pulled

Going back to players available for 2014 not many players who we should target to improve us i would go for

H.Hansen highly unlikely expect to stay with Wigan
M.Paea
R.Hanbury

If any truth in rumour would love to see Manu come back

We need a half back and 2 big props for me. Rest we can make do with what we have and hopefully the younger players will have improved

2 words danny brough halfback situation would be sorted, i no huddersfield are top but he just makes everything tick for em, how did we ever let him leave, clubs harp on about british talent in the game and we let players with his ability leave and then try everything possible to replace him how many halfbacks we had since him?

It was the right decision at the time and I'm not sure brough would have become the player he is now if he'd stayed at Hull. Too old to be spending a lot of money on now anyway. We need to find a younger player who we can build a team around for a minimu of 4 years

hes 29 hes pretty healthy and injury free you would easy get 3 years out of him. hes fast can tackle easy the best halfback in super league. ( i think)

we was willing to pay 400k for lee langers brother (chase) but we wont break the bank for a british talent in the position we struggle in & have for 8 seasons, then that to me says the whole chase fiasco was a ploy to put bums on seats.