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Quote: WestYorksFC "OK so I'm generalizing. But my point is that were too quick to jump on the coach. Has anyone actually thought that the lack of experience in Webster and last may be adding to agar problems.if we are to keep agar then we need an old head next to him'"


He's had 3 years and in that time he's had Jon Sharp and Dennis Moore as his assistants.

IMO Agar is an assistant and not a head coach.

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Quote: garry brindley "It's not irrelevant or double standards at all, it's being able to see the shades of gray rather than pretending everything is black and white.'"


Rubbish.

If it's Agar's fault when we lose then it's his fault when we win. You have already said he is responsible for the players actions.

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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]:



Quote: PAUL M "Rubbish.

If it's Agar's fault when we lose then it's his fault when we win. You have already said he is responsible for the players actions.'"


I understand your argument in the sense that he has to be given some credit when we win since he gets so much criticism the rest of the time, but in terms of a cause-effect relationship you know as well as I do it's not as simple as that.

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Quote: garry brindley "I understand your argument in the sense that he has to be given some credit when we win since he gets so much criticism the rest of the time, but in terms of a cause-effect relationship you know as well as I do it's not as simple as that.'"


No it's not because it does not suit the fans argument to give Agar any type of credit.

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Quote: PAUL M "I can't honestly remember but it's irrelevant. If we win the coach has to take credit then the same when we lose. Anything else is double standards.'"


Not really Paul. Perhaps that is what you want to imagine, as it helps your cause.

There have been a few games that we have won, and fans have still pointed out Agars failings. Then there have been games we have lost, and fans have blamed just the players. There has also been enough games when both players and coach have been slated or praised.

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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]:



Quote: PAUL M "No it's not because it does not suit the fans argument to give Agar any type of credit.'"


If I was manager of Hull City I'd probably do pretty badly. If the Allams then let me sign Rooney, Fabregas and Vidic results would almost certainly pick up a bit. Would that mean I was a better coach than when I didn't have them?

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Gone a bit off topic folks,there is an Agar thread somewhere and this is supossed to be about Mark OMeley giving the v sign and as such i think its been decided he didnt so surely the claim is a slanderous posting ???

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Quote: Isaiah "Not really Paul. Perhaps that is what you want to imagine, as it helps your cause.

There have been a few games that we have won, and fans have still pointed out Agars failings. Then there have been games we have lost, and fans have blamed just the players. There has also been enough games when both players and coach have been slated or praised.'"

Which games were these?

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Quote: PAUL M "No it's not because it does not suit the fans argument to give Agar any type of credit.'"


I agree with this completely. I spoke to Agar last year at the reserve game are cas. He doesn't read the forums but he's 100% committed to making hull a successful club. If he does leave I hope the fans remember him as the man to unearth and bring through young talent. Mainly tom briscoe

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Quote: Isaiah "Not really Paul. Perhaps that is what you want to imagine, as it helps your cause.

There have been a few games that we have won, and fans have still pointed out Agars failings. Then there have been games we have lost, and fans have blamed just the players. There has also been enough games when both players and coach have been slated or praised.'"


I don't have a cause. You know as well as I do the Agar gets blamed for everything on here, a lot of it justified.

I just won't listen to fans saying when we win it's about Fitz and Ogre etc and when we lose it's all about Agar.

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Quote: garry brindley "If I was manager of Hull City I'd probably do pretty badly. If the Allams then let me sign Rooney, Fabregas and Vidic results would almost certainly pick up a bit. Would that mean I was a better coach than when I didn't have them?'"

So why not trust these players to get us in the top 6 regardless of Agar?

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Quote: garry brindley "If I was manager of Hull City I'd probably do pretty badly. If the Allams then let me sign Rooney, Fabregas and Vidic results would almost certainly pick up a bit. Would that mean I was a better coach than when I didn't have them?'"



When did Agar sign three of the best players in the world icon_lol.gif

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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]:



Quote: PAUL M "When did Agar sign three of the best players in the world
Ok I signed the 3 best players in the Championship then, point is he dramatically improved the squad.

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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]:



Quote: east hull FC fan "So why not trust these players to get us in the top 6 regardless of Agar?'"


Because I'd rather we improved our chances of success by having a good team AND a good coach!

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