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Can't make the meeting due to work commitments but reading Hutchies sig, I think a supporters trust is the way forward we need to work with the club not against it.

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Quote: Hutchie "What if they dont merge but create a working partnership Why?

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Because he doesnt like Fc Voices? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Hutchie "What if they dont merge but create a working partnership
What about me? Would I have to be on the Committee of a new group to make sure the disabled fans are represented?(Not that I think it will come to it anyway icon_wink.gif )

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proportional representation or whatever they call it icon_lol.gif

If a fans group could get over 2000 members, that would represent approx 1/6th of the average support would it not, so surely deserves 2 places of the 12 or so on FC voices.

Id also question why they need 9 (hope ive counted right) non representative persons on it. Not counted Rich as i know he represents out of town fans

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Quote: Hutchie "proportional representation or whatever they call it FC Voices isn't a representative body, so none of that is relevant.

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Quote: Kosh "FC Voices isn't a representative body, so none of that is relevant.'"


Exactly the constitution is not for a member body it is for a group of fans that try their best to help other fans get the most out of supporting their club. As such proportional representation does not come into it because there are no members to judge a proportion of!! Its fine it works.

One representative per organisation is as the group is constituted and unless the members feel that has become obsolete then it stays as it is, simply because its fine and it works.

The fact that when HISA used their place on the group, more often than not no one turned up anyway!

As an asside I would think that an independant supporters group would need at least twice that number of members to be taken seriously by the club, particulally if the leaders were, before it had even been formed, overly concerned about the amount of power and representation they had on other fans organisations!

There are far bigger fish to fry than that, and already it would appear that you are getting bogged down in power issues! Perhaps, just perhaps the new ISA may just need the support of FC Voices and all the other fans organisations in the first instance without allianating them before they even get started!

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Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Exactly the constitution is not for a member body it is for a group of fans that try their best to help other fans get the most out of supporting their club. As such proportional representation does not come into it because there are no members to judge a proportion of!! Its fine it works.

One representative per organisation is as the group is constituted and unless the members feel that has become obsolete then it stays as it is, simply because its fine and it works.

The fact that when HISA used their place on the group, more often than not no one turned up anyway!

As an asside I would think that an independant supporters group would need at least twice that number of members to be taken seriously by the club, particulally if the leaders were, before it had even been formed, overly concerned about the amount of power and representation they had on other fans organisations!

There are far bigger fish to fry than that, and already it would appear that you are getting bogged down in power issues! Perhaps, just perhaps the new ISA may just need the support of FC Voices and all the other fans organisations in the first instance without allianating them before they even get started!'"


Good points Wilf.

I see no reason whatsoever why FC voices should change if the ISA becomes succesful as they would perform different functions IMO. I also see no reason why any fans group would need more than 1 seat on FC voices? Its not like they vote on anything AFAIK so more than one seat wouldn't give any sort of advantage anyway.

If this becomes some sort of power struggle or witch hunt I wont be involved.

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Quote: The Dentist Wilf "The fact that when HISA used their place on the group, more often than not no one turned up anyway!
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Maybe if the goal posts never moved i would have attended more icon_lol.gif

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You just got a mention on Humberside.

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Quote: Panda92 "You just got a mention on Humberside.'"


What did it say?

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Quote: Wollagong Way "What did it say?'"


just advertised it

thanks gwilym

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thanks gwilym'"


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Quote: Wollagong Way "What did it say?'"

Mentioned fans unrest, said it was fans meeting up, the name 'Karl Hutchinson' (Sorry if any of that's spelled incorrectly) was mentioned a few times, along with his email address and mobile phone number. I wasn't paying much attention, though.

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Quote: Panda92 "Mentioned fans unrest, said it was fans reading up, the name 'Karl Hutchinson' (Sorry if any of that's spelled incorrectly) was mentioned a few times, along with his email address and mobile phone number. I wasn't paying much attention, though.'"

you could of just said TOSS POT icon_wink.gif

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