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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Problem for Thompson is what's in front of him. In 2014 he was number 16 with Paea, Green, Ellis, Tuson, Westerman and Whiting in front of him (and Watts). Now he's behind Taylor, Watts, Ellis, Minichiello, Manu, Hadley, Green, Bowden, Washbrook, possibly Turgut and even perhaps Larroyer. His relative level of impact has diminished probably more so than his absolute level.'"
To be fair, I don't think any of the highlighted give us anymore than Thompson, at least with Thompson he as the ability to get us a couple of tries, make an impact, and from a bench player, thats what i want, I dont think Radford thinks so little of Thompson as you do
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "To be fair, I don't think any of the highlighted give us anymore than Thompson, at least with Thompson he as the ability to get us a couple of tries, make an impact, and from a bench player, thats what i want, I dont think Radford thinks so little of Thompson as you do'"
I'm not sure, think last year he realised he limitations of him and that's why he wasn't first choice.
For me the others offer a lot more, mainly better defence and the big thing, level of consistency that you don't get with Thompson.
He needs a big season or I think he will be at Hull in 2018.
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "To be fair, I don't think any of the highlighted give us anymore than Thompson, at least with Thompson he as the ability to get us a couple of tries, make an impact, and from a bench player, thats what i want, I dont think Radford thinks so little of Thompson as you do'"
He also has the ability to miss a lot of tackles and he's pretty sloppy in his positioning defensively, particularly around the rook & at A defender in the line, which due to other players compensating creates a gap somewhere else.
There are pro's and con's to his game like everyone else. He is capable of scoring a decent try, Salford away springs to mind a couple of years ago, and whilst he doesn't seem to make many yards, he can bust a tackle and create the space for others.
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| I'm guessing most think we'll be doing plenty of defending this year, I personally dont want a bench full of steady good defenders, I want someone who can bring something to a game, dont think hadley, green, turgut give us that. I think thompson will have a good year given the opportunity, agree if he does't become more consistent, then he'll be gone next season, like a few others will
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| Trouble with Thompson he can go out of form with no warning. Can come into form with no warning to though. Easily our most inconsistent player.
Mega feet footspeed and strength (people make too much out of his size imo..He's strong beyonD his size) but can miss an under 9s standard tackle out of absolutely no where. Makes his errors at the very worst of times and same with pens.
Frustrates the hell outta me because his positive attributes could make home a real weapon off the bench
To add impact off the bench I'd be really tempted to use Mini
Think he could really suit it. Start hadley..Let him do the early grunt work that goes on. Then bring Mini on to liven us
Did it v cas at home last year week after the semi. We were really flat in the opening 20. Mini came on and got us back into it
Bench as it stands can give continuity,and some steadying influence but no 1 to change up the tempo or add impact imo
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| Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "Trouble with Thompson he can go out of form with no warning. Can come into form with no warning to though. Easily our most inconsistent player.
Mega feet footspeed and strength (people make too much out of his size imo..He's strong beyonD his size) but can miss an under 9s standard tackle out of absolutely no where. Makes his errors at the very worst of times and same with pens.
Frustrates the hell outta me because his positive attributes could make home a real weapon off the bench
To add impact off the bench I'd be really tempted to use Mini
Think he could really suit it. Start hadley..Let him do the early grunt work that goes on. Then bring Mini on to liven us
Did it v cas at home last year week after the semi. We were really flat in the opening 20. Mini came on and got us back into it
Bench as it stands can give continuity,and some steadying influence but no 1 to change up the tempo or add impact imo'"
Yeh not a bad shout on mini, just really not happy with hadley in the starting 13
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "Yeh not a bad shout on mini, just really not happy with hadley in the starting 13'"
Why not, out of interest?
I think Hadley's game is a lot more suited to being a starting player than off the bench. Defensively sound in a difficult area to defend in, does the basics very well, very fit, and has shown a fair bit of improvement in the oppositions 30 running some good lines in that 2nd row channel. As you mentioned with Tommo, maybe a run of games starting in the 2nd row will see him flourish?
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "Yeh not a bad shout on mini, just really not happy with hadley in the starting 13'"
Hadley is a sound starting player imo..Great defender..fantastic line runner..added some great size..And a great pass on him. Doesn't have the explosiveness Mini tho. Which is why I like mini off the bench. Over the season it'll benefit him if we use him sparing as we can. The fixture list is ridiculous and not conducive to 35yr old starting 2nd rows
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| Reckon our starting team will be along the lines of:
Scott Grix
Tom Johnstone
Reece Lynne
Bill Tupou
Ben Jones-Bishop
Sam Williams
Jacob Miller
Anthony England
Kyle Wood
Mitch Allgood
Danny Kirmond
Matty Ashurst
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David Fifita
Craig Huby
Anthony Walker
Liam Finn
Should be an interesting matchup - not looking forward to facing that edge with Talanoa and Griffin! Need to be on our game defensively, but think we have enough going forward to get you worried.
Hope it's a cracker
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "Reckon our starting team will be along the lines of:
Scott Grix
Tom Johnstone
Reece Lynne
Bill Tupou
Ben Jones-Bishop
Sam Williams
Jacob Miller
Anthony England
Kyle Wood
Mitch Allgood
Danny Kirmond
Matty Ashurst
Tiranau Arona
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David Fifita
Craig Huby
Anthony Walker
Liam Finn
Should be an interesting matchup - not looking forward to facing that edge with Talanoa and Griffin! Need to be on our game defensively, but think we have enough going forward to get you worried.
Hope it's a cracker
Thats a good pack, some skill in the half's and a strong bench, the main weakness I see is your back defensively (Although a good threat going forward), this is where we could win the match as on one said we have Griffin and Talanoa and on the other Fonua and Kelly, add in Shaul and we have some real threat for once going forward. We need our forwards to get us on the front foot, so Houghton can get the ball out wide early for our backs to do some damage, I think we would have lost this game last season, but fancy us on Sunday if we get our game plan right, including improving our discipline.
Looking forward to the game, should be interesting, where would you recommend going before the game for a beer?
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| Quote: DGM "Why not, out of interest?
I think Hadley's game is a lot more suited to being a starting player than off the bench. Defensively sound in a difficult area to defend in, does the basics very well, very fit, and has shown a fair bit of improvement in the oppositions 30 running some good lines in that 2nd row channel. As you mentioned with Tommo, maybe a run of games starting in the 2nd row will see him flourish?'"
I wouldnt have him on the bench either, but you might be right about him having a run starting, but i doubt it. Hes the ultimate definition of average sl player, hope he proves me wrong with a bit more game time
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "Reckon our starting team will be along the lines of:
Scott Grix
Tom Johnstone
Reece Lynne
Bill Tupou
Ben Jones-Bishop
Sam Williams
Jacob Miller
Anthony England
Kyle Wood
Mitch Allgood
Danny Kirmond
Matty Ashurst
Tiranau Arona
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David Fifita
Craig Huby
Anthony Walker
Liam Finn
Should be an interesting matchup - not looking forward to facing that edge with Talanoa and Griffin! Need to be on our game defensively, but think we have enough going forward to get you worried.
Hope it's a cracker
On paper the best looking trinity side I can remember in a long time..Ian Millward has lost the plot. Saw he tipped you bottom
Only thing I don't understand is Grix coming straight in. Jowitt looks a real good lad to me. Always thought Grix bang average. If hudds had a star full back in recent years they'd of won something imo
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| Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "On paper the best looking trinity side I can remember in a long time..Ian Millward has lost the plot. Saw he tipped you bottom
Only thing I don't understand is Grix coming straight in. Jowitt looks a real good lad to me. Always thought Grix bang average. If hudds had a star full back in recent years they'd of won something imo'"
Jowitt had surgery post season and isn't ready for a first team / SL match yet. He was out dual reg last week to pick match fitness up. I think he will be first choice once 100%.
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "I wouldnt have him on the bench either, but you might be right about him having a run starting, but i doubt it. Hes the ultimate definition of average sl player, hope he proves me wrong with a bit more game time'"
Can't have a team full of superstars, to be a top team what you want is your 'average' players to work hard and get on with it week in week out to the same standard which is what Hadley does. Every team needs players like him.
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