FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Hull FC > Gareth Ellis
42 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Kosh , Roland_R , Karen
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7355
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: meatpaste "Joking aside. Ellis has been a big disappointment this season you have to agree.'"

No he hasn't and no I don't.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach30348
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: His Bobness "Getting to the final was a good achievement and of course not at all disappointing especially since you won very difficult games in the quarters & semis. The nature of the cup is that just one or two good performances can get you all the way there but you didn't exactly have an easy draw so well done.

But was the leadership of Ellis such a crucial factor? It didn't seem that way to me but you see a lot more of him than I do, maybe his presence has inspired others.

In his career Ellis has often led by example but for me he isn't a natural leader of men, has he ever captained a team before?

Whatever, I think the question being asked here is about his playing contribution. I thought the idea about making him a marquee signing was that he would be a stand out player not just for Hull but in the whole of Super League. We were after all told that Hull were 'making a statement' by signing him.

Personally I don't think he has lived up to expectations at all or anywhere near. He's a tough player and defends well but you've quite a few others who do that. I think you lost a lot more with the departure of Manu than you gained from signing Ellis.

Ellis missed a lot of last season in Australia through injury he's missed a lot of this season through injury he even looks to have visibly aged since he came to Hull. Some players like Jamie Peacock seem to mature like fine wine but to me Gareth Ellis is very clearly a player in decline. It'll be interesting to see if he is selected for England for the world cup surely on form he won't be although most likely he won't be fit anyway.

Like I say you see a lot more of him than me and if you are happy with the value you are getting then really that's all that counts. Either way he'll be taking up a good chunk of your salary cap for a good while yet.

Well done on getting to the final you fully deserved it after beating Catalans & Warrington.'"

ellis was immense in the semi and was probably my MOTM.

I don't know how much we're paying him but I suspect that his value to the club and his fellow team members goes way beyond 80 minutes each weekend

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10852No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2018Aug 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Jake the Peg "ellis was immense in the semi and was probably my MOTM.

I don't know how much we're paying him but I suspect that his value to the club and his fellow team members goes way beyond 80 minutes each weekend'"


Saw him interviewed on Sky one week and it was patently obvious that he would be a great person to have around the club for the younger players to look up to. Exudes the calm, unaffected confidence that sets the truly great professionals aside from the rest. Kearney-esque.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1463
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Seventies red "Well you certainly should be doing considering what your club are paying him, very poor return to date in my honest opinion.'"


If you are judging Value for Money, presumably you have to divide a Club's Revenue by the Players Salary, as a players investment will contribute to both on and off-field earnings.

Assuming Ellis is our top earner, I'd assume his value (HFC Rev/Salary) is still favourable compared with many other players in the league. For example, I'd rate Dobson as very valuable to Rovers, but I'd be surprised if his actual return is very much higher than Ellis.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1269No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Aug 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I think Ellis gives us a confidence in defense when he's on th pitch. For all our poor offensive work on saturday, our defense was superb!! If we can take that with us into next season, we have a real shot at top 4.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12741
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2018Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Seventies red "Well you certainly should be doing considering what your club are paying him, very poor return to date in my honest opinion.'"

do you know the meaning of the word honest?

RankPostsTeam
International Star860No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2014May 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



His best years are behind him, but he is still a class player.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5202
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2018Jan 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Dont know how true this is bit apparently broke 3 ribs , medicle staff said he cant carry on so he told them to inject him because hes going back out .

RankPostsTeam
International Star2015
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2016Jul 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Rock God X "Saw him interviewed on Sky one week and it was patently obvious that he would be a great person to have around the club for the younger players to look up to. Exudes the calm, unaffected confidence that sets the truly great professionals aside from the rest. Kearney-esque.'"


Is that the calm stephen kearney who got sent off in the play off when you lost 71-0 ?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7383
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



soon back to school des , theres agood lad

RankPostsTeam
International Star66No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2014Mar 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I wonder when they are going to build a bridge over Caravan park... give all their lonely trolls somewhere to live....

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach957No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2017Apr 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Hessle Roader "I'm the same. I think meatpaste is sh*t, give me a nice Ardennes pate any day.'"


A Hessle Roader that doesn't like meatpaste ?! You be saying you're not fond of patties next. icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner888No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2017Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: deslawson "Is that the calm stephen kearney who got sent off in the play off when you lost 71-0 ?'"


Muppet...

Your right his final game, never been sent off throughout his career and then Ganson centre stage... bang

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10540No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Standee "Yes, he's a leader and we are much better when he's on the field, I am quite happy, I never expected him to rip the rest of SL a new one like some (usually opposition fans) did.'"


Spot on. Anyone disappointed by anything other than the fact he's missed a few games with injury (which can happen to anyone) is so because of their own over-expectation.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10540No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: His Bobness "In his career Ellis has often led by example but for me he isn't a natural leader of men, has he ever captained a team before?'"


I think that's a valid point to discuss. He's a great role model and judging by what players have said he clearly inspires his teammates with his actions, but I do wonder how he is as a 'talker'. He comes across fairly well in interviews, but that's not always an accurate indicator of how well it comes across on the pitch. Wasn't he captain before leaving Wakey, too?

As for what he's offered as a player, IMO when he's been fully fit and sharp he's been very good, at times excellent. Immense in defence, but will never shine in an attack that misfires as often as ours does. The only reason Manu could at times was because of his freakish strength forcing things to happen, but really the fact that he could do that was probably more papering over the cracks in our attack rather than being the solution to our problems.

42 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Kosh , Roland_R , Karen
42 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Kosh , Roland_R , Karen



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


9.93505859375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4042
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
Film game
karetaker
5733
7s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63258
9s
Rumours and signings v9
[Gareth]
28897
13s
Shopping list for 2025
hull2524
5586
15s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
38s
Accounts
Tony Fax
141
53s
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
1m
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
2m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
3m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
508
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
52
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1037
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
636
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1363
England's Women Demolish The W..
1192
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1429
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1210
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1473
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2011
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2220
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2461
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2025
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2267
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2733
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2157
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2234