Rubbish. We are below where we ought to be because of poor coaching and, at times (though not necessarily today), lack of committment. Look at the Hudds squad. Hodgson aside, they've nowt special. They are well coached, well organised and play for each other.

Oh right-ho.
I'm interested to know on what basis you think we are underachieving. What has this squad ever shown you that suggests it should be higher in the league ? What has it ever achieved which makes what we are doing now seem like underachievement ? Which players, Berrigan apart, are truly world class ?

No they wasn't

HTH.

Lets forget the fact it means we preassure ourselfs on the line, this will of course effect our energy levels and when your against the time the last thing you want is to be spending it on your own line defending because your full back can't catch a ing cold.

Indeed. And they'd be lower down. But if both sides had coaches of identical quality I'd expect Wire to finish higher.

Rubbish yourself - answer my question to you - Berrigan apart who in our team is world class ?

I didn't say how long before today's game!

No question. Agar is not a good coach but our players aren't good enough.

agreed, we sure lack any ambition or knowledge in our opps 20. Which is what is losing us a hell of alot of scores

Lost it 3 times in the tackle today though!

Answer my question to you:

Who in the Hudds side (Hodgson apart) is world class?

Maybe but a better coach may get them to play to the top of their ability and that would be better.

Game over so thread locked.

Let the post mortem begin...