Saints playing their third game in 8 days too. Without barba and walmsley plus lost roby during the game who are 3 of the best players in the comp. We were 2nd best by a long way.

It's not just last night, it's what's happened already this season. Were just not competitive with the best teams imo

Last night wasn't a disaster, we looked tired but Saints are a good side so I don't think at any point of the season we'd have been favourites to win.

But I am concerned that so far this season we seem to have taken a step back from our levels in 2016 & 2017, we seem to have lost aggression (not helped by the departures of Ellis & Fonua) and we are still making too many silly errors and playing games in patches. We have suffered more injuries and suspensions this year (even on the Wings were normally you expect a lot of consistency) but we need to manage it better.

Still lots of the season to go, but so far I think we are looking at finishing 5th-8th which would be disappointing and more back where we were during the Gentle era and 2015 not the top4 Grand Final assault we had hoped for.

Wire cruising v Salford already

Saints 8 points ahead played the same number of games
Wire 4 points ahead same played
Wigan 2 ahead 2 games in hand
Leeds 1 point in front 2 games in hand
Cas same points 3 games in hand.

We need to go on a big winning run

Both Castleford and Warrington starting to come good.Dont think we have a chance of top 4.Looks like 5th or 6th at best

Could have done with Catalans winning this but looks like they've gone to pieces

Your the first person to mention Radford out, maybe You need to get a grip

Radford doesn't have the ability to take us any further, 2016 was his best chance of winning the league title with a squad that was well over the cap AND virtually injury free.
I predicted us in 1st at the beginning of the season but frankly he's not being able to instil in the team what's required to be a top club, we're a bit like Warrington a few years ago but without reaching a GF.
We have a great squad, we have a great youth system and yet the teams ability to score tries in the red zone has gone backwards and whilst at times our defence is awesome the same holes/frailties appear time and again.

Comedy platinum

Is it a game to see who can slag knockersbump off first every time he posts he obviously doesn't like Radford but at least he talks rugby and only offers an opinion isn't that the point of a forum

I have no problem with that but he's abusive to anyone who disagrees with him. If he simply posted his opinion and discussed it no one would care but anyone who dares to disagree is met with a load of abuse. I just enjoy winding him up TBH as the forum is boring as hell otherwise

Bring back the Bump
I’ve not seen a lot of his posts but he deserves a gold medal for persistence lol
Is he ok ? You know like properly ok ?
We need colour in life and if we were all the same we’d be robots
He’s angry that we’re not winning GFs
He’s angry that we don’t make GFs
He’s concerned we will finish 6-8th this season which is a disaster and certainly not what AP will be looking for
He can’t work out why we have no real attacking flair and haven’t replaced Ellis/Mahe correctly
He’s concerned at missed tackles and errors