Lets be honest that 14 arent first teamers so lets not kid ourselves we are missing 14 first teamers. This team would have being good enough to beat a few teams lower leagues puts some confidence in the team and younger players too. To play a young team at Bradford was a waste.

Leeds are playing 5.

I imagine at least two will be almost entirely academy teams.

I forsee a lot of pre-match drinking this season, starting in Wakefied a fortnight today, just to soften the pain.
Wakefield are 11/8 underdogs to beat us first SL game.
If I could ever bring myself to back against us I would be hammering them at the odds.
I do hold onto hope I'll be proved wrong.

Try reading my post. We went into this game with 9 first teamers out and it's now 10.

Do you not think we needed some confidence building performances ?

Try reading mine. We should have gone for some fixtures to install confidence. Bizarre that we havent. We won 1 out of our last 10.

You cant tell me your really happy with this pre season.

It doesn't matter that they're not all first teamers, for example with Shaul. Now Connor is injured, Shaul would be the man to replace him, and he is injured. Bowden isn't a first teamer, but he is next in line when any of our props get injured so is still a crucial loss. We end up with 3rd choice full back and 8th choice prop as our best options.

Winning pre-season games means nothing. We could have played five and won the lot but it wouldn't mean we'd beat Wakefield.

Must admit I’m wondering about the pre season plan as not sure what purpose the games we’ve played are actually serving other than giving the young hopefuls a run. I know we have injuries but we are now going into the start of the season a first team that’s not exactly had any useful game time as a team unit, just seems to have been a bit rudderless.

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Completely disagree. We have a squad of 30 odd and half are injured. Playing more fixtures with18 year olds against some part time clubs wouldn't help. I've already said the pre season has been a disaster. Manu Ma'u's injury sums that up.

Actually thought the young players had a good dig today, minutes 41-50 apart.

Men against boys 2nd half which was to be expected with respective teams.

Positives where Fash and Brown who were outstanding.

I don't think I've seen a player with a bad a kicking game as McNamara is a long time.

Need bodies back or we are in for a really long season.

Do we have any takers for a top 6, play-off position this season??

Agree with that. Really hope Connor is OK.

Lets hope so but i still think our front row will not be enough to stop us going 0/3 or even 4 with Satae and Sao once again flogged to death
Hodgson has been unlucky with the injuries but i wonder if he will make it through the season given the pressure he is likely to come under.
What is evident is that none of the younger group are anywhere near first team level so we still have this massive gap between first team and back up players
Adam will have to do a lot of cheap ticket deals to get fans in this season