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Quote: PAUL M "Talk of dropping Horney after one game when he is trying to cement a partnership with Seymour.......get lost!'"

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Do you think Seymour made Horney have a poor game..get lost!

What excuse have you got for the last 2 seasons icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: PAUL M "Talk of dropping Horney after one game when he is trying to cement a partnership with Seymour.......get lost!'"



Paul...he was bad last season....we have seen the best of him and for 2013...we need a new 6.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "I think the problem is he has been rushed. I think he is lacking in confidence, clearly he is at ease in the 20s as he performs very well. He needs to develop with the big boys slowly, he needs to learn how to duck and dive, and get stuck in the NL1 will be an ideal place to develop him imo.'"




Agree 100%. Hull have set him back in his development by not letting him grow as a player at his own pace. By way of comparison look at Liam Salter today. You will have seen them both play at junior level Marfa and know how much more highly rated Reece was. Both played their first Academy game in 2009 but Salter didnt play a first team game against Super League opposition till last week. I think its fair to say on todays performance that he is now far ahead of Reece in his development.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "icon_lol.gif

Do you think Seymour made Horney have a poor game..get lost!

What excuse have you got for the last 2 seasons
So Horne has not had a good game for two seasons... really. You've not been watching then.

Was he poor today, yes however so was Lynch, Hermaia, Yeaman I could go on. Calling for them to be dropped? No thought not.

Gentle has decided that Horne and Seymour are his preferred halfback pairing for now and they will need time to cement a partnership. After just one game I am sure he won't be ditching one of them, thankfully he's the coach and you're not.

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Quote: R.B.A "Agree 100%. Hull have set him back in his development by not letting him grow as a player at his own pace. By way of comparison look at Liam Salter today. You will have seen them both play at junior level Marfa and know how much more highly rated Reece was. Both played their first Academy game in 2009 but Salter didnt play a first team game against Super League opposition till last week. I think its fair to say on todays performance that he is now far ahead of Reece in his development.'"

TBF I personally rated Salter higher, but you are right he has been rushed and put on a pedestal which has not helped by all accounts!
I still think he has potential but he needs shipping out, I think Agar was desperate to be seen as developing youth tbh and saw Reece as an option.

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Quote: fc baldy "Paul...he was bad last season....we have seen the best of him and for 2013...we need a new 6.'"


You might be right, I don't disagree. However he is the best 6 we have at the club and I want to see how him and Seymour get on.

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Quote: R.B.A "Agree 100%. Hull have set him back in his development by not letting him grow as a player at his own pace. By way of comparison look at Liam Salter today. You will have seen them both play at junior level Marfa and know how much more highly rated Reece was. Both played their first Academy game in 2009 but Salter didnt play a first team game against Super League opposition till last week. I think its fair to say on todays performance that he is now far ahead of Reece in his development.'"


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Quote: PAUL M "So Horne has not had a good game for two seasons... really. You've not been watching then.

Was he poor today, yes however so was Lynch, Hermaia, Yeaman I could go on. Calling for them to be dropped? No thought not.

Gentle has decided that Horne and Seymour are his preferred halfback pairing for now and they will need time to cement a partnership. After just one game I am sure he won't be ditching one of them, thankfully he's the coach and you're not.'"

If you read the whole thread instead of jumping in (not surprised at that though) you will realise I have said Horney produces a handful of decent games a season. Basically we get the odd glimpse of excellence but I am afraid this is not good enough at this level, as our results have proven.We now have options in the h/backs and Horney should be made to fight for his shirt, something he has never done, this may actually improve his consistency who knows.
Yeamo and Brisco where pants! however they have offered more than a handful of decent games last season!
Hermeia offered very little, but we have Houghton who offered a lot more so Hermeia needs to up his game to get on the pitch!
Lynch is in a better position not dissimilar to what Horney has been in for the last 2 years in that we have very few options in that department so we can only hope he ups his performance

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Quote: PAUL M "You might be right, I don't disagree. However he is the best 6 we have at the club and I want to see how him and Seymour get on.'"

How do you know he is the best 6 at the club ?

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Quote: Marfa Manu "How do you know he is the best 6 at the club ?'"


Ellis and Nicklas have potential but that's all it is. When they come on the pitch and prove it I will judge them.

I can't judge them until that happens.

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Quote: Nobby Nolan "Just amazes me how pumped up Rovers fans can get over a friendly game. Don't know how others feel but I go to friendlies because its been months since I've watched rugby and I want to see our new players in action/any changes in performance from the old guard.

To claim our players would be envious of the Rovers support or be affected by people in the home stands leaving early at a friendly game is both very naive and possibly very wishful thinking.

Glad it meant so much to Kris Welham when they scored their third try though. He should make the most of moments of pure elation like that while he can.'"


Here's lies the difference, its called passion something some of you newbie Hull fans are in short supply of.

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Quote: Nobby Nolan "Just amazes me how pumped up Rovers fans can get over a friendly game. Don't know how others feel but I go to friendlies because its been months since I've watched rugby and I want to see our new players in action/any changes in performance from the old guard.

To claim our players would be envious of the Rovers support or be affected by people in the home stands leaving early at a friendly game is both very naive and possibly very wishful thinking.

Glad it meant so much to Kris Welham when they scored their third try though. He should make the most of moments of pure elation like that while he can.'"




Here's lies the difference, its called passion something some of you newbie Hull fans are in short supply of.

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Quote: PAUL M "Ellis and Nicklas have potential but that's all it is. When they come on the pitch and prove it I will judge them.

I can't judge them until that happens.'"

I agree, and my point is I would like to see what they can do ideally next match to see if they offer better options partnered with Seymour.

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Quote: Seventies red "

Newbie Hull fans? When the result of the game matters you will see me showing a bit more passion.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "If you read the whole thread instead of jumping in (not surprised at that though) you will realise I have said Horney produces a handful of decent games a season. Basically we get the odd glimpse of excellence but I am afraid this is not good enough at this level, as our results have proven.We now have options in the h/backs and Horney should be made to fight for his shirt, something he has never done, this may actually improve his consistency who knows.
Yeamo and Brisco where pants! however they have offered more than a handful of decent games last season!
Hermeia offered very little, but we have Houghton who offered a lot more so Hermeia needs to up his game to get on the pitch!
Lynch is in a better position not dissimilar to what Horney has been in for the last 2 years in that we have very few options in that department so we can only hope he ups his performance'"


My first post wasn't aimed at you, just saw some Horne to be dropped talk and reacted. We do have options, we don't know if they are good options as yet though. Horne and Seymour need to have pressure on them and the Ellis/Nicklas will provide that.

Horne has also had little in the way of a fellow half to work with in recent years and had to shoulder all the responsibilty. He now has a partner so I would like to see him try and forge a partnership not just be dropped after one friendly.

If a few games into SL he isn't playing well then drop him but give him a chance to get something going with Seymour first.

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