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Quote: Tarquin Fuego "www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-FC-ruthless-says-Agar/article-2634982-detail/article.html

Well that's it then , we can all breathe easy after that crushing derby loss.
I have said it until I am blue in the keyboard. We need a world class coach.

Ruthless , ruthless ..goodness me , is that it ?
Where is the coaching manual to make a player ruthless ? there isn't one. Success is built on discipline , fitness , terrific team bonding and a defensive effort to match KR's at the KC (but every week).

The board need to be ruthless and appoint the likes of Kearney , Hasler , Bellamy at al'"


OMG....what an absolute ar-e Agar is......we executed our gameplan well......OMFG.....sack the useless pile of crap NOW.

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We had a gamplan?

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Quote: VoiceOfReason "OMG....what an absolute ar-e Agar is......we executed our gameplan well......OMFG.....sack the useless pile of crap NOW.'"


Did you even read it?

He said Rovers executed their gameplan really well icon_rolleyes.gif

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Stuck up for Agar a bit this season and I still think he has done well, a one year deal would have been Ok for me.

Really disapointted with the tatics in the last 15 minutes of the game, needing 2 trys and we still continued to paly one man rugby for the first 4 tackles, the biggest game of the season, nothign to lose, so throw the ball about FFS.

Also still no official word on why Tansey was dropped?

Really missed our best attacking player, could have made a big different IMO.

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Quote: Dave K. "Stuck up for Agar a bit this season and I still think he has done well, a one year deal would have been Ok for me.

Really disapointted with the tatics in the last 15 minutes of the game, needing 2 trys and we still continued to paly one man rugby for the first 4 tackles, the biggest game of the season, nothign to lose, so throw the ball about FFS.

Also still no official word on why Tansey was dropped?

Really missed our best attacking player, could have made a big different IMO.'"


Maybe no news on Tansey as they have had to arrange a meeting with him regarding his future, hopefully he will be given one last chance.

I agree about the offloading, we were chasing the game so should have been offloading the ball and creating 2nd phase possession but we just kept it tight. Leeds showed how to chase a game. Obviously you don't just chuck it around anywhere and need to complete your sets but surely we could have got our arms free, backed up and created some momentum by keeping the ball alive. Safety first again I am afraid.

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Agar has had long enough to build his team and until recently I thought we were heading in the right direction in terms of signings and retention etc. The decision yo give Radford a 2 year deal is just beyond ridiculous as that money is now essentially wasted for the next 2 years. I've never been convinced by Agar as a coach but the recruitment appeared to be a big positive. Unless we bring in some more ball handlers our style of play will never improve, it's all well and good saying Agar plays a style dependant on the players available to him but he has had the chance to change the players available. If we don't see some ball players brought in our attack will be just as poor next year. Even allowing for Long and Horne to have a better run with injuries we won't improve much if at all. Hornes passing is shocking and Fitz shouldn't be used as a ball playing LF as his passing isn't great either.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Right, Agar.

Pros


Nail on the head, thats saved me some typing and thinkg mate

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"Hopefully we'll be more up in that department next year. We will have a better balanced squad and certainly will have more genuine cover in those positions where when we have had knocks this year it has hurt us most."

Have we missed some major announcements?

Where is the balance and more importantly cover going to come from?

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Quote: cod'ead ""Hopefully we'll be more up in that department next year. We will have a better balanced squad and certainly will have more genuine cover in those positions where when we have had knocks this year it has hurt us most."

Have we missed some major announcements?

Where is the balance and more importantly cover going to come from?'"


Maybe we should wait for the recruitment to be finalised.

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Quote: PAUL M "Maybe we should wait for the recruitment to be finalised.'"


Maybe Agar should have too before making that comment, then. We've already missed out on some signings, so he perhaps shouldn't be promising things he might not be able to deliver.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Maybe Agar should have too before making that comment, then. We've already missed out on some signings, so he perhaps shouldn't be promising things he might not be able to deliver.'"


Agar did, he said we will be bringing in halfback cover for sure. What he would not say is who it was as things can change even at last minute with regards to recruitment.

He has said nothing wrong.

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Quote: PAUL M "He has said nothing wrong.'"


Strikes me that Agar cannot win, if he'd said nothing he'd get pilloried for that too.

I don't rate him, but I have accepted that we're stuck with him.

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Quote: Standee "Strikes me that Agar cannot win, if he'd said nothing he'd get pilloried for that too.

I don't rate him, but I have accepted that we're stuck with him.'"



Me too. If KH rang me today and said right it's your call what would you do I would say go and sign a top coach from down under or even Brian Noble. Change the structure right from the youth to first grade. Then give him a three year contract and let him have the final say on all playing matters. However that won't happen.

Tbh it should not happen either as Rich has earnt himself another year, he got rid of some poor players and recruited some good ones. He has taken us from 12th to 6th and we were unlucky not to get 4th after the Radford red card. He seems to have grown into the role a bit more this season, I like what he says after matches and he also is standing for no ill discipline with the players. He now has a good no.2 who will bring ideas and is hungry. He still has to improve again and take us on further but with some decent recruitment now and hopefully a positive off season where we can try to improve our style of play he can do this.

I don't think he will turn us into a champion team but right now he has to turn us into challengers and this season we have challenged for the top 4 and I would have taken that at the start of the season.

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I don;t think he has earned another year. Effectively all he has done is give us 6 more wins this season and they have not exactly been emphatic wins either.

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