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| Quote: bonaire "I disagree
where you see the hand of Lomax is where the impact occurred,and his hand is hiding what would be the impact of Gales boot.
That gash on his shin is deep yet there is no blood.Funny that if its a new wound.
You get a better view if you see it live and slow the recording down'"
You can see on the picture the back studs hit just above the sock. The other studs likely catch below the knee and end up on the thigh. The blood thing isn't an issue either, flesh wounds don't always bleed quickly, especially not when it's about 3 degrees. It's not a conspiracy this, it definitely happened.
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| Quote: Saddened! "You can see on the picture the back studs hit just above the sock. The other studs likely catch below the knee and end up on the thigh. The blood thing isn't an issue either, flesh wounds don't always bleed quickly, especially not when it's about 3 degrees. It's not a conspiracy this, it definitely happened.'"
Your certainly busy spreading the news on other forums like an old woman, how’s Konrad doing for you by the way.
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| He's got 3 matches, AND referred to the tribunal. Could be two separate charges.
2 month ban being rumoured.
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| Quote: ccs "He's got 3 matches, AND referred to the tribunal. Could be two separate charges.
2 month ban being rumoured.'"
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| Quote: ccs "Just a feeling, but I reckon they'll throw the book at him, the VR said it was deliberate.'"
Unfortunately I think you maybe right but I would seriously question how a VR can say it was deliberate? I think its fair to say that Gale is one of those players that doesn't go out with any intent or to deliberately injure a player. I would say it was most definitely careless and not sure I even go as far to say it was even reckless. Is you watch a lot of charge downs when a player tries to close down quickly many have a leading leg to help when they push themselves off they don't jump like a salmon. It wasn't a two footed kung fu effort and was nothing more than a genuine effort to charge the ball down that he got wrong though as its one of the clubs from Hull you can bet it will be given maximum penalty.
I hope that they also review the performance of Kendall & Moore in regards to two incidents that the on field ref didn't call but was told in his ear resulting in a yellow and red cards of which the yellow was a joke as Welsby played the officials and purposefully lifted his own standing leg which resulted in him going down. When you watch the incident back he plays he's hurt holding his neck but then suddenly jumps back up as though nothing has happened. Did Wynn lift one leg? Yes but did he lift it above horizontal and waist height? No.
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| Quote: ccs "He's got 3 matches, AND referred to the tribunal. Could be two separate charges.
2 month ban being rumoured.'"
If that's true then the game of RL is just a joke and no longer the sport it was. I agree in player welfare but you can't officiate a physical sport with mambie pambie officials as we may as well just ask players to wear ribbons on their shorts and outlaw tackling altogether.
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| Hes been charged with a grade c and d.
What's he gunna get 8/10 weeks
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Grade C, 3 matches for lifting the player off the ground.
Grade D, "Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) -
Other contrary behaviour", tribunal.
staging.rugby-league.com/uploads ... y%2021.pdf
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Grade C, 3 matches for lifting the player off the ground.
Grade D, "Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) -
Other contrary behaviour", tribunal.
staging.rugby-league.com/uploads ... y%2021.pdf
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| Laughable
The grade C is listed as 3 matches and the grade D is decided by tribunal. Its going to be 7+, I wouldn't be shocked if its something absurd like 10 in total.
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| Quote: ccs "Grade C, 3 matches for lifting the player off the ground.
Grade D, "Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) -
Other contrary behaviour", tribunal.
I had it down as a reckless incident with a 2 match ban, but I did wonder if the lifting of an injured player off the ground would be looked at in a bad light and might occur a separate charge.
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| 8 matches at a guess
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| Also points out that Wynne did literally nothing wrong and was given a yellow card for no reason (which we already knew).
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| Quote: scarrie "Laughable'"
Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.
The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.
Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.
So what recourse of action can we expect form the RFL for the incorrect decision to not only penalise Wynn but to also issue a yellow card? As usual nothing will be done and the RFL will just bury their heads and they wonder why a lot of fans think the sport is corrupt.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.
The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.
Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.'"
So Hurrel committed the exact same offence that both Austin and Dwyer have been sin binned and for and received a match ban in recent weeks, and he gets nothing. Absolute ing joke this sport.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.
The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.
Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.
So what recourse of action can we expect form the RFL for the incorrect decision to not only penalise Wynn but to also issue a yellow card? As usual nothing will be done and the RFL will just bury their heads and they wonder why a lot of fans think the sport is corrupt.'"
Regarding Konrad, do you remember Dean Hadley copping a three match ban in a Derby a few years back, for the offence of shoving someone in a vulnerable position, I’m no conspiracy merchant, but as I posted last week, the recent clampdown on players discipline only seems pertinent to certain clubs.
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