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| Quote: Mild Rover "I think that is something you often see with successful people, especially at the top of a hierarchy when they're no longer obliged to listen to alternative views. Just as unsuccessful people tend to overestimate the role luck has played in their lives, the successful (naturally) tend to downplay it in their personal narrative. And the idea of a superman is more appealing or easier to accept for a lot of other people than the idea that there's a big slice of arbitrary serendipity running through events - it's the same thing that fuels conspiracy theories.
On reading your post, three examples sprang to mind - thatcher and the poll tax, Blair and WMD, and Allam and 'look at my record'. Trust in their own judgement, which they see as having been thoroughly in the past, blinds them to evidence pointing in the other direction.
I don't for one second think Pearson has 'lost it' like that. But looking back at the thread somebody dragged up from 2011, that sort of stuff isn't going to help ground a fella. And really somebody close to him needs to point out the flaws in his 'Gentle's fault' story, as they're obvious even to people who want to think the best of AP.
The other side of the coin, of course, is that with just one more good performance, you'd have won the cup within 2 years of his arrival and I'm sure he'd still be 'the man'. He just needed a bit more luck at a key moment.'"
Good post, agree with all of it.
I suspect AP had observed at reasonably close quarters the success we had in 04-08; the large crowds, strong merchandise, profitability and highish profile. He probably also thought that he could outwit the dour band of identikit Cox and Evans chairmen round the table at the RFL, and invest relatively little for reasonable returns. What he's found out is
a) this group of middle-aged+ Northern nylon-suited paunchy self-made men with 70s terrace heritage are pretty difficult to break down when they're of one voice
b) their knowledge of the game is actually worth something, along with their genuine club love
c) You get diminishing returns from claiming imminent success and not delivering, so savings become necessary.
What appears not yet to have realised is:
a) Compelling leadership requires taking responsibility and showing some humility, not blaming everyone else and sticking to the wrong path regardless.
b) In a club that's chronically underperformed for a decade, seismic culture change is unlikely to be delivered by a group that's known little else.
c) Independent expert advice would go a long long way - that goes for recruitment, coaching and any RL-specific aspect of running the club. Self-interested "advisers" may have let the club down, but either be a dedicated student of all aspects of the game inc NRL for example, or get someone who really is.
Interesting and thought-provoking thread.
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| Quote: FCFALERNA " I was busy trying to look for veins to slash'"
Oh dear. It's only a game.
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| Quote: FCFALERNA "I concede I am wrong'"
Indeed you are. Fancy stating he'd "left the arena" when he hadn't. You must feel a right tit.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Indeed you are. Fancy stating he'd "left the arena" when he hadn't. You must feel a right tit.'"
No not at all but very articulate of you, in fact i dont feel anything right now apart from a slight recoil in the controller on COD
However thanks for trying to attack me ... miss quote what I said etc etc...read my post , all of it not just that which suits your remit...
I repeat I have no idea if he left the stadium or not as i didnt follow him through the directors area, neither do I recal looking at his seat again
however would the poster who said he saw him with five mins to go post the photograph or is that silly too ? yes it is grow up, bored are we that attacking fellow fans is your night done!!
I never cease to thank the lord for leaving Hull
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Indeed you are.
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you saw him five mins from time too ??
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| Quote: FCFALERNA "No not at all but very articulate of you, in fact i dont feel anything right now apart from a slight recoil in the controller on COD
However thanks for trying to attack me ... miss quote what I said etc etc...read my post , all of it not just that which suits your remit...
I repeat I have no idea if he left the stadium or not as i didnt follow him through the directors area, neither do I recal looking at his seat again
however would the poster who said he saw him with five mins to go post the photograph or is that silly too ? yes it is grow up, bored are we that attacking fellow fans is your night done!!
I never cease to thank the lord for leaving Hull'"
Yet you spend a fortune on fortnightly return flights from Stansted. You did say he left the arena BTW. There's enough stuff to post negatively about right now was we can observe from your many posts in the last week. No need to make things up for embellishment.
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| Quote: FCFALERNA "No not at all but very articulate of you, in fact i dont feel anything right now apart from a slight recoil in the controller on COD
However thanks for trying to attack me ... miss quote what I said etc etc...read my post , all of it not just that which suits your remit...
I repeat I have no idea if he left the stadium or not as i didnt follow him through the directors area, neither do I recal looking at his seat again
however would the poster who said he saw him with five mins to go post the photograph or is that silly too ? yes it is grow up, bored are we that attacking fellow fans is your night done!!
I never cease to thank the lord for leaving Hull'"
Reminds me of a couple of posters on here, funnily enough.
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| have we any quota spots left?.a mid season signing can sometimes give the team a boost.i remember dean treister a few years back,giving the team a real fillip
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Yet you spend a fortune on fortnightly return flights from Stansted. You did say he left the arena BTW. There's enough stuff to post negatively about right now was we can observe from your many posts in the last week. No need to make things up for embellishment.'"
YET I NEVER STOPPED SUPPORTING THE CLUB I LOVE EITHER!!
enjoy yourself...
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Reminds me of a couple of posters on here, funnily enough.'"
were they worried about the club too ?
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| I personally think Radford will walk and save Pearson getting the axe out .
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| Quote: FCFALERNA "were they worried about the club too ?'"
there's little point in having a conversation/discussion with some on here, all they are about is abusive/derogatory posts in repsonse to opinions or anything they happen to disagree with, that and deflection of the real issues by focusing on minor things and their own interpretations of what's happening and whom has said what...aka 'apologists'
Leaving Hull for me was the best thing I ever did but I love coming back, I enjoy the city as a visitor and I'll always support my team no matter what. I've had my fair share of abuse on here but I'll never stop voicing my thoughts and/or opinion, shame there's a few on here that just can't accept that we are all entitled to such.. it's always the same one's tbh.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Yet you spend a fortune on fortnightly return flights from Stansted. You did say he left the arena BTW. There's enough stuff to post negatively about right now was we can observe from your many posts in the last week. No need to make things up for embellishment.'"
FFS I bet you loved dissecting frogs at school? Why do you twist everything to your satisfaction, it's posters like you, who are the font of all knowledge, that does me in, we all have an opinion of all that is Hull FC, rightly or wrongly, but you...... You seem to make it your aim to make a poster look like a , and the only reason I can gather is to make yourself look superior.
Get this, Hull FC imo are absolutely diabolical, the coach is from Primark managing an Harrords team, his assistant couldn't assist someone across the road, Last is just as his name suggests LAST....AP is proving to be not as astute/able as we all presumed, we are in a dogfight regarding relegation, and Mrs B what exactly can you find wrong in what the majority are saying??
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| Quote: westjba "FFS I bet you loved dissecting frogs at school? Why do you twist everything to your satisfaction, it's posters like you, who are the font of all knowledge, that does me in, we all have an opinion of all that is Hull FC, rightly or wrongly, but you...... You seem to make it your aim to make a poster look like a lover, and the only reason I can gather is to make yourself look superior.
Get this, Hull FC imo are absolutely diabolical, the coach is from Primark managing an Harrords team, his assistant couldn't assist someone across the road, Last is just as his name suggests LAST....AP is proving to be not as astute/able as we all presumed, we are in a dogfight regarding relegation, and Mrs B what exactly can you find wrong in what the majority are saying??'"
Read my post on the Pearson thread and come back and tell me I'm one-eyed, cockle.
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| A word of advice Fcfalerna one person you try and avoid getting into an argument with on this board is Mrs B, she is like a dog with a bone (No offence) when she believes she is right about something..... and to be honest when she believes she is right she usually is.
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