His defence isn't that bad either, most of the ones fans have highlighted have been big forwards 2 yards from the line. Actually saved a few tackles one on one, certainly better than Connor in that area.

He certainly seems good at getting in between the oppositions ball carrier and supporting runners when they've made a break as he's done that a few times already.
Think he will get better the more the plays and settles not jus in the team/club but in terms of living the other side of the world.
Would imagine now Trueman is fit and starting to show what he can do alongside Clifford that will also help Hoy as he links in the play.

Never understood the Hoy hate. Constantly runs over 100m and a lot of his Carries are back line Carries which show a ton of commitment.

Also has the ability to slow breaks down like Chris has alluded to. Without his ability to get in the middle and put some doubt in the attacker swift doesn’t make the tackle yesterday. Also worth noting Hoy also made the right decision and probably made the tackle if swift hadn’t been there.

It’s fair to say litten is probably the busier fullback but I think a lot of that is because of how green he is. He wants to be involved and make something happen when a lot of the time he should just pass. (At times like hudds game it does work for sutty try but not often enough)

For now Hoy is undisputed #1. Let litten spend a season of two on wing to gain experience and he’ll then be ready to replace Hoy when he succeeds him or Hoy moves on.

Got to remember Hoy is also 23, is there a younger first choice fullback in SL?

Once he settles in like it took Clifford a bit he will show his class, funny KR fans was taking the mick out of him but their Fullback Coote is always injured.

I’ve slated Hoy before but he really showed up yesterday. Still think Litten is safer under the high ball, but going forward Hoy is streets ahead. I hope we can keep hold of them both long term.

Hoy is doing fine. Averaging 19 carries and 112 metres.

He and his partner seem to be enjoying their time here too.

That’s probably the reason Saints only offered Coote a 1 year contract? He is injury prone and misses more games than he plays. Walker could well turn out the same? Unfortunately he picks up more than his fair share of injuries.

As for Hoy. Think for me it’s been more like frustration as I was confident he is a lot better than he was showing. But I tempered that with realising he is still young and playing on the other side of the world. It always takes time. Yesterday was a big step in the right direction.

Saw Elliot Minchella today, down Jenny Brough Lane, couldn't resist having a gloat (From the safety of my car).

Tbf it was just an anecdotal comment at the end of me giving you two paragraphs of praise. You’ve explained it, no need for the bitterness you’ve just won and got to heady heights of 9th, enjoy it.

Agree, probably right. Saints can have a bit more forward planning though having the luxury of attraction and a young Jack welsby waiting in the wings. Shame as coote is still a quality player, but think you need better value from quota players. Hoy will be just fine especially if you’re forwards stay on top like they did yesterday

Well the Wire board is a lovely read today!!

Heaven knows I should be used to this by now, having been a black & white since the mid seventies, but I sure am confused this morning.

Is this really the same team that looked utterly disinterested two months ago? The about change in attitude from Easter is staggering, even by our topsy-turvey standards! The same group of players have gone from seemingly not caring one jot to playing as if their very lives depends on the result!

The change in attitude since the Huddersfield game is incredible, particularly our defence in the second half against Wigan and the first half yesterday, absolutely outstanding effort by all. We still look a little hit and miss in attack at times, but we are definitely moving in the right direction in that aspect also.

I was perplexed early in the season as to why we were SO bad, really bad, amongst the worst I've witnessed in all my years of following the club. But, I'm now as equally flummoxed by the turnaround, in a good way of course.

The next month is now crucial for our prospects for this year. If we can win the away games at Leigh and rovers, and win at least one of the Saints/Cats games then we will put ourselves into the mix for potentially nicking a play-off spot, which would represent at least a modicum of success coming off the back of that dreadful losing run in March/April.

As the saying goes; It's never dull in 'ull (Fc)! and that sure is true this morning for all long suffering emotionally drained black & whites everywhere!

This took a swift dark turn. Does somebody need a hug?

Completely agree about the next month but seriously can't see us getting anything out of it, and typically we face Saints as they run into brilliant form. However with relegation concerns now eased and some unexpectedly improved performances it feels a bit brighter for now! Hopefully we can get Griffin signed up and some quality in replacements for the players we're losing.

Because of that seven game losing streak, we've left ourselves with a good deal of catching up to do. Looking at the table as it currently stands, I reckon we need another seven, possibly eight, wins from our remaining fixtures. That doesn't give us much room for error. Our horrendous points difference is also a potential factor.

Like I said earlier, if we can win at both Leigh and rovers (neither of which will be easy) then we could haul ourselves onto their coat-tails and put pressure on them as we enter the season run-in. It's still asking a lot for us to claw the deficit back, and I'm not entirely convinced we have enough to put a run together so that we elbow our way into the top six and a play-off spot. But I think we're all a damn sight more hopeful than we were two months ago!

Either way, it's never simple being a B&W is it? Talk about an emotional roller-coaster! I'm getting too old for these nerve-shredding games. I swear blind that supporting our club has probably knocked twenty years off my life!!