when the KC stadium was first mutted was n't there some thing mentioned that it would only be built to home at least 2 professional clubs and if either did n't want to move in it would not have been built. i was also under the impression that Hull city council owned the ground (not Hull city) and it is managed by the smc so i wonder what the councils stance would be if ever the club did want to move?

wasnt the terms of the lease re-negotionable after five years anyway? sure i heard the club was in talks with the smc last year.

Thats what i thought .

Think you're confusing the lease with the rental/operating agreement.

Does anyone seriously believe that we would have made it to 3 finals in 4 years if we had stayed at the boulevard? The KC has given our club opportunities, commercial and otherwise, that the boulevard simply doesnt. The boulevard will always be sacred to every fc fan, but the ground was a dump. The 3d stand hasnt been intimidating for many many years. People need to stop looking back through rose tinted specs and see why we left there in the first place. A move back there takes this club back 20 years.

Loving the comments on the official Hull FC site this morning...

It seems the only person who was casting a doubt in everyone's minds was Radford!

As far as I can see the players on the pitch wearing a Hull FC shirt got us to the finals, not our ground. And I'm sure if you look at our expenses you'll see the KC is not a glittering gold pot for us, it is for others. It has become a bit of a mill stone, do you think wigan or hudders pay £2500 per game to use the scoreboard?

So if it has brought untold riches why do we have a £2 million debt with an annual income of £5 million?

The stadium was the catalyst. Look at the league tables pre and post move. The players played there part, of course they did. The same could be said of hull city. They would be playing in league 2 now if it wasnt for the move and the increase in revenue it also afforded them. There are other examples too, look at sunderland and Bolton. We wouldnt have got the crowds at the boulevard to enable us to spend the full cap and therefore afford the players that got us to those finals. The debts were well publicesd before the move too.

That debt is historical though isn't it, rather than being piled up year on year? Because there will always be a demand from fans that any profits be reinvested in 'their' club (even after the salary cap is reached, you can always spend more on coaches, youth development, cheap season tickets for kids etc), I think that debt will hang around until ownership of the club changes hands.

As far as I can hear, its the fans that make the noise, not the ground

We don't have debts of £2m

As per the last accounts we had total liabilities of £1.7m and after netting that off with the current assets its net current liabilities of £728k.

You have mentioned in the past that the company has no assets. Ignoring the revaluation of players with goes against the accounting standards, there is a further revaluation of a tangible asset (£280k). This could only be land and buyings as its the only real assets which will have appreciated in value from original purchase date.

Earlier in the thread you claimed Hull have lost home advantage as we don't train at the KC.

Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea don't train on their home ground and it doesn't seem to have adversley affected them.

But, why let a few facts get in the way of your hatred for those who run Hull FC

as someone not blinkered by the pre threepenny redevlopment boulevard i going to say that the place was atotal s**t hole. The amazing atmosphere was non existent, even in the "world famous" threepenny stand it was just a few drunks shouting . the ends were as bad as anything at odsal and the east stand shoudl have been shut on safety grounds 15 years ago.

the day hull go back there they will lose thousands of the newer fans, people arent going to keep going in the numbers they currently do to a bodge job version of the halliwell jones which is the most hull would get built for them if they went back

Attendances more than doubled when we moved to the KC. Even given the general rise in SL crowds over the last few seasons should we still be at The Boulevard we'd be getting crowds of around 7-8,000.

Without the move to the KC we would have struggled to reach three finals and would have got a "C" grade licence at best. At worst we may have gone into administration.