slight dig

calm down i was saying he qwas trying to be clever git

Webster counts on the non-fed and Dykes is twice the player he is.

Only my opinions of course. But his safeness is probably the reason he has so many GB caps.

IMO Horne has got a brilliant step.
Remember about two seasons ago think when we was on that brilliant run of 13 games or what ever. We was playing Salford away and losing, then pops up horney 10metres away under their sticks, runs side steps two players and goes in for the try.
I think he's always side stepping, and usually to great affect.

No offence Carl, but what you hope for and what is a realistic target are two very different things.

The phrase of "Underwhelming" is used virtually every time Hull make an announcement. Are there those out there who seriously expect every signing to be a GB, NZ or Aus international?

So far we have either signed or re-signed Thackrey, Horne (nearly), Calderwood, Crocker and Thorman. All of which have played international RL. Maloney is the best from the NL who we are giving a chance to. I seem to recall that current St'Helens winger, Ade Gardener was signed from Barrow, proving there can be a few hidden gems in the lower leagues.

Exactly. Though Crocker is the only signing I have been really pleased with when you put all the signings together and think there could possibly be a couple more I think we will have well improved the squad for next season. Which is a big plus for me as I thought we would struggle. 2009 might not be a write-off after all

We need a centre and a prop.

Horne's short kicking game is actually pretty good. Mid and long range are another matter, granted.

I honestly don't understand your point about Horne's step. As you say, maybe we've been watching two different players. I'm talking about Richard Horne - who have you been watching?

I think we mean different things by 'safe' TBH. Horne doesn't try for the miracle ball since his passing/creating game isn't strong enough. He does play off-the-cuff well when running the ball though, and there have been one or two other occasions like Tony's try over the years.

I agree Standee but i think it will be one or the other and not both

Not every signing, but for a half-back the team is meant revolve around at a club supposedly aiming at being top 4 regulars and aspiring to a GF win, definitely approaching that level of quality at least. Out of the 12 halfbacks the top 6 teams have, only 1 hasn't played international or SOO RL.

I agree he's the best on offer for 1 season whilst we wait to see if Dykes can manage 20 games. All I'm saying is that if you consider him on his own merits as a half-back being brought in, he's not top-4 team material.

Signings are underwhelming in my book if they are overhyped beforehand, a disappointing, anti-climactic inferior alternative after missing out on much better, or not as good those they are replacing in the team from the last 3 seasons. Particularly so if they are poor/average uses of the limited quota. Thorman, Cusack, Byrne, and Maiava all fit that description recently IMO.

If there is 1 positive to take out of this signing it's thisThis will also stop us having to play Berrigan in the halfs again.
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