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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"I never expected much from this season for the simple reason that I didn't think our pack was good enough to match it with the likes of Saints, Wire, Catalans and Wakefield. Without wishing to dwell on the past, the decision to get rid of Watts and not replace him still baffles me. And as others have said we've never really replaced Ellis or Pritchard like for like (the former being irreplaceable full stop, the latter having been subsidised). Layer on the long term absences of our contracted first pick props Bowden and Green (here we are almost in May, 2 bench appearances from a possible 26) and the questionable form of Paea last season - just felt like the right platform couldn't be laid by Taylor on his own as he had tried to do in that glorious run of 11 defeats at the end of 2018. We have excellent halves IMO - the best trio in SL quite possibly, two very good centres in Carlos and Griff, OK wingers and a very handy full back, but without the right foundations that's just vanity.
So given our injuries and suspensions I'm very pleasantly surprised with our league position at Round 13. Our lack of grit in the "middles" has been exposed against the top 2 but there are some positives in the forwards. Paea has been much better this year, Mini looks to have renewed energy, and the resurrection of Ellis has been critical. Encouraging to add Savelio (although short lived) and Green had some real grunt in his carries today which was good to see. Just a couple of weeks off Bowden's return too. I'd also say that Houghton is having his best season in 3, loads of zip round the ruck.
What I do like as well is that we can score points and are more exciting to watch. Having spent years watching 9s, projects and crocks try and get us round the pitch in the halves, it's great to have Sneyd with the ability to pull the strings line up with Kelly and Connor (2 of the biggest talents I've seen in Hull shirts) - what we try doesn't always come off like that almost try in the first 5 minutes today - but they back themselves and have a go. This season I don't think we'll trouble the trophy cabinet unless we can get our best pack on the pitch consistently, but we are offering more with ball in hand and I'm enjoying watching Carlos' footwork, Griffin's punch, Westerman's lines. At the same time we're integrating Masi and Lane and giving chances to the likes of Wynne (looks a right player). We're 3rd in points scored, that has to be pleasing. We're clearly behind the top 2 as our blow out scores indicate, but like you say, maybe in the event we can hang on to a play off place, they may have 14 out and we might be somewhere near full strength.'"
Good post.
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| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"And now for some common sense - we're third in a dogpoo super league and about a million miles away from being a Super League winning side. Only Saints are quality, Wire are reasonable, the rest are dross - SL this year is really poor on the whole as it has been for many years - a decent coach can make their team run away with it ala Saints
Third place flatters us massively - against Saints we lost 62-16, against Wire we lost 63-12 - both utter drubbings - we're miles away! But if people want to stroke themselves to sleep with grins like cheshire cats because were third but still miles off then good for you'"
What happens end of season is what matters how we get there i don't really care ,yes want to see entertaining rugby and in some games we have ,today was always going to be a grind it out scenario and it was and that was for most sides this weekend.Make no mistake the side did us proud today under some real pressure not helped by injuries ect . |
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| Quote Wizard crane="Wizard crane"What happens end of season is what matters how we get there i don't really care ,yes want to see entertaining rugby and in some games we have ,today was always going to be a grind it out scenario and it was and that was for most sides this weekend.Make no mistake the side did us proud today under some real pressure not helped by injuries ect .'"
Totally agree with all of that  Given all the circumstances surrounding this season, (much talked about on numerous threads on this board) I am pretty happy with a lot of what I've seen this season. Yes, there have been lows, and dissapointments but also plenty of pleasing moments, times of frustration and times of rolling the sleeves up and showing grit and character. I'm enjoying the ride! |
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Were 3rd with a negative points difference and a million miles away from the Top 2
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| Quote Tarquin Fuego="Tarquin Fuego"Were 3rd with a negative points difference and a million miles away from the Top 2'"
And?
We all know the squad isn't quite good enough to be top of the tree.
Sitting 3rd despite not playing brilliantly and never having a first choice team on the pitch isn't a bad achievement. |
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Wigan were a million miles off Saints last year, finishing 10 points behind...
Leeds were a million miles off Cas in 2017, finishing 10 points behind...
Its all about finishing strong and making sure you're in the top 5. Its then knock-out rugby.
I genuinly think if we ended up winning the GF after finishing anywhere from 2-5, some people on here would still be complaining that we were lucky and didn't deserve it.
Fact is, we are sitting in 3rd and very much in the mix at this stage of the season.
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grand final doesn't represent who is the best team in league.last 2 years saints and cas were the champions in my book.the rl continues o reward second best.the game is a joke.
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Best team at the end of the league stage yes, but not the best team in the whole competition. The competition ends with the Grand Final.
The winners of the Grand Final are the best team in the competition.
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We are third on merit. The league table doesn't lie. We have exceeded most people's expectations me included. Are we going to stay there? probably not. Looking at the quality of the squad and injuries I'm very happy with where we are at the moment. For whatever reason some people are never happy.
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| Quote scarrie="scarrie"And?
We all know the squad isn't quite good enough to be top of the tree.
Sitting 3rd despite not playing brilliantly and never having a first choice team on the pitch isn't a bad achievement.'"
I’m laughing at how crazy it is
We have a negative points difference and we’re 3rd
Don’t you think that’s amazing after 12 rounds or whatever it is
Unreal
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“ watching FC play is a real pleasure “
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It's is unexpected true.
Tbh, I'm not sure I've ever said watching Hull is a pleasure, it's too stressful!
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| Quote Tarquin Fuego="Tarquin Fuego"Were 3rd with a negative points difference and a million miles away from the Top 2'"
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