Quote The Dentist Wilf="The Dentist Wilf"Not just that the Council had even blocked it off although the local councillor was threatening to tear it down! His actions seemed to have worked too as the SMC have backed down!! www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hul ... row-594780 A victory for common sense!!'" Agreed that it's a partial victory, but it shouldn't be locked at all, it's public land.

Quote The Dentist Wilf="The Dentist Wilf"Not just that the Council had even blocked it off although the local councillor was threatening to tear it down! His actions seemed to have worked too as the SMC have backed down!! www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hul ... row-594780 A victory for common sense!!'" Agreed that it's a partial victory, but it shouldn't be locked at all, it's public land.

I honestly expect the next thing will be to lock it for FC games unless we agree to pay to open it.

Just you wait.....

Struggle to understand what land the SMC 'own' when it is all land owned by the Council. The gate has been put there for one reason and that's to make life difficult for everyone in the City that uses that route in everyday life . The terrorism threat excuse is just trying to hide behind the fear factor and is pathetic. I'm sure a gate is really going to stop someone when the stadium can be accessed easily from the park.

I’m not quite sure I understand the terrorist threat and how this gate mitigates it. What’s the theory?

I think the theory is that, having evaded detection whilst studying Jolly Rogers Cook Book, buying the materials online, building the device and attending the mosque, Jonny Terrorist will decide that, instead of getting a bus to Walton Street or Spring Bank to carry out the deadly deed, it’s all become “too difficult” because he can’t go to St Stephens on the way for Nando’s and walk down Londesborough Street, to the stadium via the walkway, so he’s going to become a volunteer at The Samaritans and breed fluffy bunnies instead. That’ll show the infidels!!

What I do find daft about this is that the gate is opened when city games are on so what allam is saying is we will close the gate to stop a terrorist attack when the stadium is empty but leave it open to make it easier for the terrorist when there is a bunch of people in there...

That terrorists wishing to attack the stadium are too thick to go via West Park.

few bike locks and it'll stay open for a while

Terrorists are only interested in killing as many innocent people as they can not blowing up empty buildings.

Well, exactly. This is what I don’t get. Surely the “risk” is elevated on matchday therefore the requirement to close this ISIS barrier should be then? The whole rationale sounds bonkers to me.

With the Allams, it’s almost a threat from within, they seem to want to “blow up” the KC from within. The old man seems intent on misery to achieve his own happiness. All that money, no conscience or morals.

The response from councillors, at least on Twitter and in the poorly articulated "statements" seems high on emotion and low on detailed critique and dismantling of the rationale put forward by the SMC. Whether that's through lack of capability, appetite or resources to fund appropriately specialist legal counsel I don't know, but posturing about taking the gate down themselves then having to concede that in the main it will stay shut is exactly the response the Allams would have been hoping for IMO.