I try to defend you, and think you get a lot of unnecessary abuse on here, but that one line has just had me at my desk. Ridiculous statement!

It's not always about what Ellis did physically, it was his presence and what it did for the other players. Huddersfield at home he made his comeback after injury and you felt the whole team lift at him simply being on the pitch. He truly was captain fantastic and whilst there will be players capable of physically doing what Gaz did, it was the whole mental attitude that will be irreplaceable. Thank goodness he's still around behind the scenes as I hope that will go someway to bridge the gap of not having him on the pitch.

Tripe. Mini is mega. Don't get me wrong. But 2014 Ellis was our player of the year. 2016 2nd in the man of steel
I love a stat more than most. But common sense needs applicating to them as well. 2 different players. 2 different styles. A lot of minis busts are whilst grabbing the line. On later tackle count usually. Wider out vs 2nd rows and centres.
Ellis is often early tackle count carry..through the middle v big men. Defensively they can't be compared.
Ellis when missing from team is far more obvious than when mini is. As good as he is

Come on Knocker play the game pal. Were just not comparing eggs with eggs here.
Mini is classed as a very good player here at Hull FC and by all his peers too.
In the NRL Mini is seen more in the good player category.

Whereas Gareth Ellis's performances both here and down under have him firmly in place in the legend category, and that's without considering his off the field influence at Hull FC which has infact increased throughout his time with us.

His performances on the field for us, but for a handful of games, have been consistently outstanding. His average game is at a top level.
Gareth Ellis is leaving behind a legacy, his presence here has reinvented the mindset of the club. We are now a club who know how to win, and feel like we can go out expecting to win every game.
He has influenced everyone from the Chairman and the tea lady, just as much as the juniors.
In my opinion Gareth Ellis has had a greater effect on this club than any other player in our clubs history. Including Whiteley, Norton, Sterling and Smith.

I know we all have opinions but ......

^^^^^^ THIS^^^^^^

As I said in a previous post we have be extremely lucky to have witnessed both Ellis and Mini in the black & white but its impossible to compare the two and unfair. They are both fantastic players and will rightly go down in history as great players for this club.

Its impossible to truly quantify which is the better player as they both have tremendous talent which has driven this club to the success earned along with the other players in the squad.

But purely for the impact his signing has had on the club from day one and the poop comments from rival fans about we've paid over the odds etc for him just shows how regarded he was in the game worldwide when you see the comments from NRL fans down under saying he was a great in their game.

Just wish we could have got one more season from him but more than happy he wants to stay part of the club.

It's not possible to compare different players from different era's, let alone different types of players from the same era. Ellis has been good, very good, not quite sure he's "legendary", but I am not sure what that accolade accounts for nowadays anyway. At least nobody has said he was "iconic"!!

yes I have Completely agree with Uppo there!

Mini is better than Ellis.
Gentle would have won us the treble.
What was Radders again? A bully and a gap toothed turd.

Come on folks, this poster has form for hyperbole, inventiveness, and, quite frankly, the plainly ludicrous.

He doesn't rate Steve Norton or Arthur Bunting either.

Only been watching Hull since 1945 and the player since then that had the greatest effect on this club is not even mentioned. Of the others Whiteley is closest(and he was mentored by him).

francis?

Good as Roy was, I think he had more influence as our coach.

I loved him as a player and saw every match he played in Hull from joining in 1949 having seen him playing for a Warrington team that demolished us a season before .

As captain he was inspirational and also took on the player coach role for a few years before retiring midway through the championship winning season of 55/56. By then the team he had moulded into one of the best in the league was complete and went on to 3 successive championship finals with him as coach(2 won and 1 lost by a point).

Roy Francis was a visionary player with an exceptional rugby brain and one the best players I have seen play for Hull. The word iconic can safely be used to define his playing career.