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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Don't agree about the refs, Watts apart I think all the decisions were correct.'" Crikey, next you'll be saying every penalty not given to us was correct as well.
Penalties could be given at nearly every tackle/play the ball - it's up to the ref to (randomly) decide whether to award one or not.
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| Quote ccs="ccs"Crikey, next you'll be saying every penalty not given to us was correct as well.
Penalties could be given at nearly every tackle/play the ball - it's up to the ref to (randomly) decide whether to award one or not.'"
That's rubbish, also big difference between sin binning and Pens.
I'll agree at times it seems to be random, but often penalties for both teams are obvious.
Every fan could say that they are hard done to my refs.
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"No there isn't. Defence was the issue in those games. We're not doing anything differently to last season in respect of discipline.'"
2nd highest number of penalties conceded in the comp, 7 yellow cards and 1 red would indicate otherwise. Our poor ball control (which was much better on Friday) and indiscipline have put additional pressure on our defence
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."That's rubbish, also big difference between sin binning and Pens.'" Why is it rubbish? Have you never seen us not given a penalty when a few minutes earlier we were penalised for exactly the same offence?
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| Quote ccs="ccs"Why is it rubbish? Have you never seen us not given a penalty when a few minutes earlier we were penalised for exactly the same offence?'"
You said penalties could be given nearly every tackle, that's the rubbish bit.
To answer your question yes I have, but all teams could say that, this doesn't excuse our poor discipline this year.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."You said penalties could be given nearly every tackle, that's the rubbish bit.'"
Taking into account offside, not square, not playing the ball correctly, not playing the ball at the mark, delaying the play the ball, plus the tackle process itself, I reckon most times one of those offences will be committed - and the ref decides whether to bother or not.
So, in a sense, you're right, every penalty we've conceded was almost certainly a correct decision.
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| Quote ccs="ccs"Taking into account offside, not square, not playing the ball correctly, not playing the ball at the mark, delaying the play the ball, plus the tackle process itself, I reckon most times one of those offences will be committed - and the ref decides whether to bother or not.'"
If you say so, we aren't going to agree, despite the facts ou discipline is fine, might as well lock this thread.
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| Stats don't lie.
If you're going to stick your head in the sand and suggest its the refs fault, its not going to improve is it.
There is a problem with discipline at Hull, I dunno how anyone could say there isn't, but I suppose it depends how you define a "problem", it doesn't seem to be hurting them too much.
Taking Leigh out of the equation Hull are doing roughly one extra penalty a game than everybody else, so its not ridiculous, just high comparatively.
Look at Catalans, complete penalty dingbats for as long as I can remember, this season bottom of the stats but it hasn't helped them any.
That card count say's a lot more about the team priorities than any faffing about at tpob, sorting that out will have more of an impact than a few extra conceded penalties over the season.
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| Quote Upanunder="Upanunder"Stats don't lie.
If you're going to stick your head in the sand and suggest its the refs fault, its not going to improve is it.
There is a problem with discipline at Hull, I dunno how anyone could say there isn't, but I suppose it depends how you define a "problem", it doesn't seem to be hurting them too much.
Taking Leigh out of the equation Hull are doing roughly one extra penalty a game than everybody else, so its not ridiculous, just high comparatively.
Look at Catalans, complete penalty dingbats for as long as I can remember, this season bottom of the stats but it hasn't helped them any.
That card count say's a lot more about the team priorities than any faffing about at tpob, sorting that out will have more of an impact than a few extra conceded penalties over the season.'"
Stats can be interpreted to back up many arguments, but I honestly don't believe that these particular stats show that we have discipline issues.
Look at Catalans, they are now 6th in the penalty count, not bottom as you were arguing yesterday. And our stats aren't as "bad" now compared to other teams, now that the figures have been updated.
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| Manu charged with Grade C.
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| Quote Faithful One="Faithful One"Manu charged with Grade C.'"
Grade C Dangerous Contact. EGP not available so if found guilty he'll miss 2-3 games which would be Widnes, Catalans (Cup) and possibly Saints at the Magic Weekend.
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| Quote ComeOnYouUll="ComeOnYouUll"Grade C Dangerous Contact. EGP not available so if found guilty he'll miss 2-3 games which would be Widnes, Catalans (Cup) and possibly Saints at the Magic Weekend.'"
Would the tonga game count as well as Widnes?
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