I'm all for promotion & relegation if we had enough competitive and self-sufficient clubs to see a bit of variety, and if the chances of survival for promoted sides were better. Unfortunately, the reality is that we probably have about 16 clubs who might be able to make a go of a top flight club even given more time than one season, and the gap between the 2 divisions is just too hard to bridge more than once every 5 years or so unless another club goes into meltdown. It'll just revert again to 11 or 13 constants and a guest star for that season.

To compare to football, it's not really like looking at a promoted Championship team's chances of survival in the premier league (which are not great), it's closer to sticking a League 2 side straight up there with their part-time squad and 2 months to cobble together the best of everyone else's cast-offs (with no transfer kitty) and seeing how they get on.

i saw it written that Wire, Hull, Hull KR, Huddersfield, Saints & London along with wigan have been highly critical of the rfl plans, so looks like we backed lenegan

[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/rugby-league/gary-hetherington-unhappy-at-super-league-reverse-8867477.htmlGary 'No interest in Briscoe' Hetherington not best pleased[/url

[url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/8987352/super-league-dispute-rumbles-onAnd so it continues....[/url

Wonder if he'd have the same clout and coverage if he was still running the powerhouse that is Laaandon

That's an opinion, and arguably a guess. The very fact that some clubs don't want to vote on the proposals shows that they DON'T believe that they will have a positive impact on the WHOLE sport.



From what I can see, it's equally the case that he and the RFL's behaviour is very unsatisfactory, as it seems they just wanted to force through an 8 to 6 vote and avoid the fact that 43% of SL clubs appear to have no confidence in them. To me, for such an important issue as the structure of the competition a majority of more than 2 should be required. If you can't get that you need to keep talking and considering other options until you can get more backing.

For some time (possibly still) any changes to SL required two thirds to vote in favour of a change. When the league was 12 clubs strong, it was a simple cut off: 8-4. two thirds of 14 is 9.3, so you have to round up to 10 (actually 71%), and there were a couple of complaints that it was too hard to make progress and too easy to block change.
The bigger the majority required, the more elusive action becomes. And we need action because the current system broke down. They should keep talking, but can't afford to do so indefinately - we can't (please, surely) start next season not knowing how many, if any, teams will be relegated. A decision on 2015 can possibly be pushed back a little further, but not much.

The RFL have created the monster that is Super League . The game needs SKY`s money to survive and they want Super League .
I can see the SL breaking away and being administered by the Clubs . If you are a SL Chairman why should you worry about the lower league Clubs? Most SL Clubs are struggling to survive without the threat of relegation and financial ruin .
The RFL are to blame for this mess. Promotion and relegation should have stayed from the start of Super League .
Why suddenly decide that for the good of the game re-introduce it ? Will there be a parachute payment for the relegated Club?

Getting rid of P&L was the right idea, not enforcing the licensing conditions and rescuing Salford,Bradford, London and Wakey wasn't

London and Catalan should be binned . London are a waste of time . Catalan should be in the French Leagues.

Catalan are a great club and doing a lot for RL, London should be kept but move to part of London where RU isn't as strong.

Wakey, Cas, Widnes and Bradford should go.

Completely agree, I honestly don't understand why people still want to stubbornly reject them based on nothing rational.