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| Bearing in mind the P&R this year, any points deduction might be deferred to 2015.
Relegation will mean the doors finally closing, I reckon and starting again at the very bottom.
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| If they are struggling year on year why dont the RFL step in & send them down & let a club like fev or halifax have a shot at SL, how many times can a club go through the mill like the bulls?
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| make or break season for the bulls under the new owners. need to claw back the lost supporters (over 3000 down last season) and be more competitive. sadly i feel they have left it too late for any quality recruitment and are going to struggle with or without a deduction. perhaps they need to go down a division and regroup, as they are in a financial mess trying to stay at this level. there is a danger they may become RLs equivalent of portsmouth
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| Quote: the artist " and be more competitive. sadly i feel they have left it too late for any quality recruitment and are going to struggle with or without a deduction. '"
I know friendlies don't count for much but despite their problems they did put 30 on us pretty easily and without reply until a few minutes from the end. Now to me that suggests that , financial issues aside , if they're worried then we really ought not to be complacent or smug!
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Yep. As I just said on the VT I can see the bottom of SL being a bloodbath come the end of 2014.
London, Wakey and Bradford are in the mire as it is relegation will probably put them far deeper in it for years.'"
Call me a cynic but, do you think The RFL would let Wakey go to the wall whilst there's a Hetherington involved with the club???
The RFL should be renamed The Hetheringtons!
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "If they are struggling year on year why dont the RFL step in & send them down & let a club like fev or halifax have a shot at SL, how many times can a club go through the mill like the bulls?'"
That seems a very sensible comment.
Surely time to tell them "time out" to sort themselves out and give someone else a go
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "If they are struggling year on year why dont the RFL step in & send them down & let a club like fev or halifax have a shot at SL, how many times can a club go through the mill like the bulls?'"
At their peak what are the clubs highest average attendances?
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| It seems like a RFL facilitated administration, to draw a line under the Khan era. And other debts have not been written off. By itself, I'd be tempted to turn a blind eye to that.
They did still enter administration though and the RFL seemed to be sending out a much sterner message to Wakefield.
It's just the legacy of the half-assed licensing system, RFL 'discretion' and the 'wrong' club exploding. They're trying to make the best of a very bad job, but whatever they do now will look ridiculous because it is built on such ridiculous foundations.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "whatever they do now will look ridiculous because it is built on such ridiculous foundations.'"
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| Quote: Sheldon "At their peak what are the clubs highest average attendances?'"
Does it matter? The main factor should be, can they sustain themselves in the Super League without going broke every year.
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| Can I have my £1 back?
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Quote: hullbg "Does it matter? The main factor should be, can they sustain themselves in the Super League without going broke every year.'"
With small crowds they'd struggle. Bradford have the ability to be a big club, they can attract big crowds and good sponsorship.
Can Fev or Halifax?
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| Quote: Sheldon "With small crowds they'd struggle. Bradford have the ability to be a big club, they can attract big crowds and good sponsorship.
Can Fev or Halifax?'"
The thing is though that two successive boards have made a tremendous hash of things at the Bulls. Enabled by the RFL. It's had, arguably negative, impacts on the wider sport. We had to abandon licensing before we'd had a chance to really see whether it would work, to save their brand. And it's become more toxic than iconic now. there's also that suspicion that the 'rules' would not have been bent to the same degree for other clubs. Ones that perhaps get smaller crowds and less lucrative sponsorship, but you have to at least aspire to something resembling fairness. That, or at least be honest about the system.
In fairness Wakefield also did a newco and weren't chucked out. Only because Crusaders went bust, but still. Wakefield also didn't give up any central funding, but then equally they weren't given any guarantees.
The rules, as I understand it, are that Bradford should have 6 points deducted, with the RFL free to reduce the penalty to 4 points at their discretion. This is, in one sense, harsh because the RFL seem to have wanted this outcome and helped achieve it. On the other hand Wakefield fans say their club was told they'd be out on their ear if they took the admin route again. I'm all for a bit of common sense and pragmatism, but the RFL have really tied themselves in a knot on this. The question really, is at what point do they cut their losses?
Hopefully the new TV deal will oil the economic mechanisms across the leagues and this'll happen less often.
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| Quote: Sheldon "With small crowds they'd struggle. Bradford have the ability to be a big club, they can attract big crowds and good sponsorship.
Can Fev or Halifax?'"
i think you should change the word 'have' to 'had' out of your main sentence
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "The thing is though that two successive boards have made a tremendous hash of things at the Bulls. Enabled by the RFL. It's had, arguably negative, impacts on the wider sport. We had to abandon licensing before we'd had a chance to really see whether it would work, to save their brand. And it's become more toxic than iconic now. there's also that suspicion that the 'rules' would not have been bent to the same degree for other clubs. Ones that perhaps get smaller crowds and less lucrative sponsorship, but you have to at least aspire to something resembling fairness. That, or at least be honest about the system.
In fairness Wakefield also did a newco and weren't chucked out. Only because Crusaders went bust, but still. Wakefield also didn't give up any central funding, but then equally they weren't given any guarantees.
The rules, as I understand it, are that Bradford should have 6 points deducted, with the RFL free to reduce the penalty to 4 points at their discretion. This is, in one sense, harsh because the RFL seem to have wanted this outcome and helped achieve it. On the other hand Wakefield fans say their club was told they'd be out on their ear if they took the admin route again. I'm all for a bit of common sense and pragmatism, but the RFL have really tied themselves in a knot on this. The question really, is at what point do they cut their losses?
Hopefully the new TV deal will oil the economic mechanisms across the leagues and this'll happen less often.'"
I'm not saying I agree with it, but I can see why it's happening.
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