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| Quote: Staffs FC "England Knights for them next. Crooks will still add more size and there's no need to rush either at international level.'"
no point wasting them in a team managed by FatNamara either, the Club game is more important than the current farce that is international RL.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Agree with that.
They look for all the world like future England/GB internationals but they are both raw and still learning. England Knights will be a good marker for them this season.'"
id describe lineham as raw but think its an insult to crooks who is already a refined imo. already a far better player then yeamo
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| im quite happy for them to be completely over looked for now. there development is going better than anyone could have wished for and id hate for anything to shift their focus away from continuing as there are for club
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| england knights for me,
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| Quote: Rocknhulla "id describe lineham as raw but think its an insult to crooks who is already a refined imo. already a far better player then yeamo'"
It's not an insult to call Crooks raw, it's only a year since his debut. He looks the real deal but he's still learning and increasing his experience.
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| Sooner they concentrate on FC and are never picked for England/Knights/GB or whatever they are now...wont improve them being smashed by the Aussies.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Sooner they concentrate on FC and are never picked for England/Knights/GB or whatever they are now...wont improve them being smashed by the Aussies.'"
we can agree on that
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| Quote: Standee "we can agree on that'"
Pains me to say it as have done the internationals and used to enjoy going but when you have a numptylike Mcbannana in charge and then the RFL give us a crap game after we sold out the KC v the Kiwis well im sorry but they can shove it.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Sooner they concentrate on FC and are never picked for England/Knights/GB or whatever they are now...wont improve them being smashed by the Aussies.'"
Playing against better opposition won't improve them? That's new to me.
This year may be too soon, but I certainly hope they get picked in the future. Playing against the best in the world is what helps make you become the best in the world.
To beat the man (wooooh!) you've gotta beat the man, as the saying goes.
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| Both still got loads to learn before they are anywhere near the Senior international set up but like many have said (and not just Hull fans ) , Both should be knocking on the door of the Knight squad soon.
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| The Knights squad for both is the natural progression.
Full International level can be very harsh on a young player both Crooks and Lineham are still developing this year and do not need to be over exposed this early in their careers.
I would love to know where McNamara places Danny Houghton in his hooking role options though.
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| Hey guys, saw last nights game, and gotta say Lineham looks like he could handle the physicality of international RL. Great player, and outside the right centre he could do one of heck of a job. The trouble is, the only centre in SL with a decent amount of international experience is Martin Gleeson, and even if he was good enough anymore, I highly doubt McNamara would pick him. Don't get me wrong, Watkins is a great talent, but he hasn't played enough international RL to guide a raw talent around the park. That said, he's one of the top five wingers in SL, so I'd take him and maybe play him alongside a more defensive player like Reed.
Suddenly a back line of Lineham, Reed, Watkins and Hall looks very exciting, possibly the best since Robinson, Newlove, Connolly and Offiah.
Also, Crooks looks very gifted, but he may need time to develop physically.
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| The key positions where England are lacking IMO is half back and centre. Had we had a Gary Connolly type centre then Lineham may well have been the gun call up on the wing.
As things stand a Watkins/Lineham wing centre partnership would seem too raw for the world cup but maybe a huge gamble worth paying????
Over to you Mr McNamara - either way you will be called wrong
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| Possibly but not for the Exiles game, we need 'em!!
Continue in current form and both could be dark horses for world cup selection, especially if any of the current "shoe in's" cop an injury
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| My head tells me that it is to early for Lineham but then I think that the only chance we have against Australia is to throw a couple of bolters into our backline to take them by surprise. Our pack will match theirs I have no doubt.
Crooks needs another year or so to develop in what is a more physically and mentally challenging position. Will undoubtedly be a knight though and a full international in the future.
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