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| Quote ="Barnabus"Chase would have been perfect. Atleast you know that there's a chunk of cap space, that was put aside for Chase, going spare.'"
That cap space may well be Seymour’s wage after he was paid off, so we may not have as much space as we all think.
It was mentioned by PG that we had a backup plan for Chase, which I guess is what we are working on now. It needs to be a marquee signing though as for me Ellis is our only marquee signing for 2013 and pass sales will continue to stall unless the club match the ambition they keep talking to us about. So far they are no were near that in the names they have signed up so far.
I’ve been told that Thomas Leuluai is that that backup plan. After he signed with NZ warriors and they dumped their coach, he has been in limbo and wants assurances of first team football which he can’t get at the moment as they have no coach signed up. With the link with his Dad and the club I think he is an obvious target.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Good post Andy.
Ellis is a massive signing, Holsworth is slightly better than what you had, but the rest are mediocre and won't really improve your first choice 17.
A successful 2013 will depend on whether you get another decent half in. Without one, you'll be floating around 5th/6th again next year.
Chase would have been perfect. Atleast you know that there's a chunk of cap space, that was put aside for Chase, going spare.'"
I am inclined to agree with you. At present the signings we have made will probably secure our status as a 5/6 place club. However those expecting us to challenge the top 4 with the recruitment we have made are going to be disappointed imo. I still have faith in the current regime but in future they need to be a little bit more considered when dealing with the press, AP made some statement’s that the club are clearly finding difficult to fulfil. Expectations have been built and a bit of backlash from some quarters is now being suffered as a result.
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| Problem is people believe far too much on here
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| Quote ="fcandy"I have to say that with the exception of Ellis, I am underwhelmed by our recruitment so far. It’s not in line with the quality that AP consistently alluded to in all his interviews. All our signings have been from teams that finish lower than us in the competition with the exception of Pitts. He was surplus to requirement by the current champions so hardly a coup. My point being these are not players use to winning or being in a winning culture and I’m not convinced at all they are going to upgrade us to a top two super league side. When you couple this average recruitment drive with the loss of Manu and Moa and then you have to say we are on course for yet another season of mediocrity. When you hear us looking to resign McGoldrick and Aspinwall then you do have to ask yourself are they really going to take us to the next level? AP should be commended for the off field work and resources he has put into the club but whoever is in charge of recruitment has failed in the main imo. Why the club feel the need to keep saying things that don’t turn out to actually happen, I don’t know. What happened to the two signings a week as stated on the website or two of the best half backs in the league? False promises and another false dawn for Hull FC. The AP and PG can do no wrong club need to wake up and have a dose of reality.'"
Leeds signed hardaker from championship so using your logic that was a poor signing? same for chris hill too?
Manu and Moa will be big losses but when you consider Moa played less than half the season and we've brought in Ellis, we haven't finished our recruitment for next year so don't understand why people are getting so worked up about it.
People are already moaning about next season yet this years super league season still hasn't finished
Instead of being drama queens why not wait till our recruitment is complete before crying about it?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Because rumours from fans on the internet haven't happened?'"
yes, i mean every man and his dog has been mentioned with no evidence.....
i just want cold hard facts.. and facts are we was after chase, and facts state were no longer interested.....
unless its written in stone ie: from bombers trap, then i dont beleive a word of it on here
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| I'm probably wrong on this, but didn't AP say after we'd signed Ellis and announced Arundel, that there would be another 6 that were signed but that they couldn't be announced until September, if so, then we have;
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Which would suggest another 2 to come in, although it maybe that they are now including Watts (who was signed after the 6 to come in statement) and Pitts (young and English).
AP also intimated that we would be getting a new pair of halves, one of which is Holdsworth, the other was obviously Chase, with that now dead in the water, and nobody else better than Seymour available, personally I think we are done.
Talk of Dobson, Finch and Tommy Lulueia sp. is quite frankly pie in the sky, we have our upgrades for 2013 and will go with what we have now.
Whilst not quite what we were hoping for and certainly not a championship team, the rest i.e. Wigan, Warrington, Saints and Leeds are hardly tearing away with their signings. I think it's more a case of the leading pack falling back to us rather than us tearing it up to join them, either way the outcome is the same, in that we will be more competitive next season.......... But a silverware challenging side???????
Who knows!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Smiggs"I am inclined to agree with you. At present the signings we have made will probably secure our status as a 5/6 place club. However those expecting us to challenge the top 4 with the recruitment we have made are going to be disappointed imo.'"
If it hadn't been for an extraordinary run of injuries and a couple of complete brain-fart performances we'd have been top 4 this season. IMO our squad is already looking better (albeit not by a huge leap) and average luck with injuries could easily see us top 4. Challenging for silverwear might take longer.
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| Quote ="BIGARR"Any one or two of them would of improved the team.
TBH I'm surprised Bradford can afford to keep there Star players, not studied it but I believe there on a lot less money for the next two years plus on a probation to prove they can stay in SL.'"
We get nowhere near as much off rfl as any other club for the next 2 years, but our owner has said he wil put in the cash to let us still spend up to the cap.
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| Quote ="ritz"We get nowhere near as much off rfl as any other club for the next 2 years, but our owner has said he wil put in the cash to let us still spend up to the cap.'"
Fair enough pal, I like Bradford Bulls and I wish you all the best for next year except when ya playing us of course
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| Quote ="ritz"We get nowhere near as much off rfl as any other club for the next 2 years, but our owner has said he wil put in the cash to let us still spend up to the cap.'"
"owner"
a consortium bought Bulls didn't they? and you get the ssame RFL cash as any SL team.
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| Quote ="Standee""owner"
a consortium bought Bulls didn't they? and you get the ssame RFL cash as any SL team.'"
It's a consortium consisting of two people, only one of whom has put any money up AFAIK. So effectively a single owner.
The Bulls will receive reduced funding from the RFL/SL for the next 2 years.
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| Willie poaching on twitter claims a super league team has signed benji Marshall
tbh its a total wind up
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| Quote ="Kosh"It's a consortium consisting of two people, only one of whom has put any money up AFAIK. So effectively a single owner.
The Bulls will receive reduced funding from the RFL/SL for the next 2 years.'"
They shouldnt get any, they should have being booted out!!
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"They shouldnt get any, they should have being booted out!!'"
YAWN.
Short memory there mate. 1999 wasn't that long ago.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"YAWN.
Short memory there mate. 1999 wasn't that long ago.'"
We didn't want to merge, but your halfwhit board forced our hand.
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| Quote ="Standee"We didn't want to merge, but your halfwhit board forced our hand.'"
It was more the help from the RFL I was getting at.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"It was more the help from the RFL I was getting at.'"
I think you'll find we helpded the RFL, in a way
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| Quote ="Standee"We didn't want to merge, but your halfwhit board forced our hand.'"
I'm sure they sleep easy after paying 1p in the £
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| Quote ="Standee"I think you'll find we helpded the RFL, in a way'"
In a way, yes.
Superleague is definately stronger having Hull FC in there that's for sure. Same goes for Bradford IMO.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"I'm sure they sleep easy after paying 1p in the £'"
Wonder if the next CVA will be so generous?
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| Quote ="Standee"Wonder if the next CVA will be so generous?'"
Hopefully
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Quote ="VerbalKint"They shouldnt get any, they should have being booted out!!'"
YAWN.
Short memory there mate. 1999 wasn't that long ago.'"
Typical dobbin digging up the past as the future looks so dull... I guess 1980 was only like yesterday to you as well?
I don't think the Hull and Bradford case are anything alike, we asked if we could drop out of the top flight and start again from the bottom and Bradford have been asking for conditions keeping them in the top flight so I do not see your point. The bonus for Hull was the simple minded actions of your board to stop this happening and giving uncle Kath ammunition to cut their losses in Gateshead and buy one of the biggest names in RL on the cheap.
All history, as for the future when's Benji coming?
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| Quote ="Barnabus"YAWN.
Short memory there mate. 1999 wasn't that long ago.'"
not that old chestnut again
whats next wembley again ???/
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| Quote ="voodooroo"not that old chestnut again
whats next wembley again ???/
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| Quote ="Standee"to be honest, KR have nothing to look forward to, so you can forgive them wistful memories of years passed.'"
your not wrong Standee, twitch ring scenario going on over there .....
and unless they do something VV soon no pass sales revenue to factor into their 2013 business model and BINGO in comes the reciever!!!
oh dear dear dear....things do not look good in the webbed finger wonderland!
however on the other hand the camel stables are finished so not all doom and gloom there
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