Iam sure richard agar will take him under his wing and show him the way,as he has done with all the other youngsters at the club.!

what a stupid statement. last thing you need is a halfback who can't hold is own in defence and I agree with Whiting at moment he would be targeted in defence hence he needs to improve his defence for SL.

I don't think it was meant as literal as you've taken it.

Halves aren't known for their defence, sure they need to capable but we've signed Jamie Ellis, not Gareth Ellis.

Absolutely, he needs a bit of trimming but a preseason will sort that, his actual fitness seems good. He looks confident in taking on the line and giving orders.

The priority for me is that he kicks well and creates.

I agree Paul, although i don`t see him getting much game time initially.

I'm not saying he needs to be smahing people and doing 50 tackles a game.
Bottom line is at the moment his defence even for a half is pretty poor and does need to be better before playing SL. Which is what I'm pretty sure Whiting was saying.

Cunnigham and Newton both carried a bit of weight, and nobody on here ever suggested either needed to lose any, given a full pre-season I am sure Ellis will be ready to step up to SL.

briers,deacon,dobson,burrows and sean long are all targeted in defence but you,ve gotta see the bigger picture and look at what they bring to the team instead of looking for negatives

too many years of Horne putting massive stints defensively, at the detriment to his attacking ability at times (because he's bloody knackered), half backs are there, predominantly, to organise the team, yes they need to be defensively sound, but other areas of their game are more important.

FFS I give in. He's fooking awesome needs no improvement for SL what so ever can't tackle but fook it.

can you pick your toys up now please, and put them back in your pram?