which we clearly havent got!

Daniel Anderson went back to Australia because his kids were starting high school and needed to settle down over there?
Coming back over here to coach anybody would not be an option? Unless he get's a divorce?
He was at the best club over in England and did'nt need to go anywhere? Think about it?

Fair enough. TBF I was playing devil's advocate a bit as FC have a track record of recruiting the cheap last minute option coachwise rather than being proactive and planning in advance to get a top drawer one. Whether Anderson or someone of similar calibre, the point was that we're tied in to Agar until 2013. In that time the probability is that we won't reach a final and some other top quality coaches will become available that we will not target because of this.

As much as I wish we had a different coach I think people are being unfair, would having Anderson at the helm stop Long getting injured, cure Horne's diabetes etc.?

Agar is under contract, he is, wether we like it or not, our coach for 2011 at least, and, as some have alluded to, his replacement is likely to be Andy Last, I guess we just have to "deal with it"

Maybe you're right. However, with a financially stable base and ability to spend the full cap, we should be looking at getting a top drawer coach in in the medium term. If we're serious about winning a trophy, of course.

You are now asking the big question, what is success worth?

If you could run a business at a profit, and spend the maximum minimum (ie:salary cap) and keep the dividends coming, why would you increase your cost base?

When a club wins, where does the money go? (Id wager it goes to players and other staff, with a small % as profit)

as fans, NO

as a business, I'd be taking the reliable options, we have to remember, our board is made up of people that invested in Gateshead and got lucky.

I think that the point someone was making about Brian Smith in another thread was great coaches can make average players look great. I wonder if players like Goulding, Carmont, O Loughlin etc would look good in our side, I don't remember people saying how great they were last year when Nobby was in charge.

On the other side look how our coach wastes Wille Manu now, all we try to do with him now is try to batter his way through the opposite side centre, he doesn't run any other lines, its so predictable the other team is prepared for it, true Willie is so strong sometimes he still does break the line but with a runner that strong imagine what better coaches would do with him.

I'm with Mrs B on this one, look at how Nathan Brown and Mick Maguire changed the fortunes of their teams and personel didn't dramatically change from one coach to another. Yes getting a proper halfback will improve things but I still can't see how we will compete with the likes of Leeds, Saints, Wigan and Warrington and, as shown against Rovers, we still wont be able to complete against a side that mounts a strong defence as we can't break them down and score enough points.

Why is it a risk ? Its not like we would need to pay a new coach millions of pounds, sure it would eat into profits but even if we don't make an extra penny in revenue with the profits turned the last few years it wouldn't turn it into a loss.

who said it was a risk?

The fact is, we could increase what we spend, but it wouldn't generate the same amount of income, Hul FC is a business, nothing else (to the power people), we have to accept that as fans.

I think most fans are in agreement that we at least need a new half back (either as first choice or cover) to be successful under any coach.

however I still feel Anderson would turn some of the narrow defeats of last season into wins, which in turn would have meant a top4 finish, and two bites at the playoff. Also Agar has shown time after time he can't come up with a decent game plan for big games. The last 'big' games we played well in was the CC Semi and Final (was good considering the side we put out) of 2008 IMO, since then we've consistently failed to turn up for big games.

Signing a big name coach of Anderson's caliber in the off season would add a good 2k+ to the season pass sales IMO. I feel at the moment we are going to have a slight decrease in passholder numbers for the first time since the KC move, due to the negativity about the Rovers defeat and lack of signings for next season, and we don't have the salary cap space to make a big name player signing to change that.

Beg to differ. Let's say we get a coach costing £100k more a year than Agar, whatever that is and he gets us to a final. Challenge Cup Final appearance is worth £250k to us according to Rule taking into account the merchandise sales, competition money etc, and that's before increased attendances for the following season. I can't see why we don't/won't go for a top class coach in that context.

but where does the increased cash go?