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Who cares where it is!

All those d*ckheads from the Red side can try and imply it has all sorts of connotations!

The only connotation i can see is that its a decision based on good business sense. A week training in hotter climes certainly does help, but if it isnt feasable, then which kn*b of a chairmen would allow it.

Whoever made this decision has made the right call.
HKR fans can say all they want - if i were them, i'd worry about trying to sort that woeful away kit, and awful stadium, and the fact that they havent won a trophy or appeared in a major final for years!

We'll worry about our side of the river!

Never understood "warm weather training" anyway. We send them to a warm country to train for a season that starts during probably the coldest spell in the year? But then, I'm not a trainer.

Frankly as a fan, I don't care if they train in Hull, Portugal, Spain, at the North Pole or Mars, provinding they produce the results match day.

Never understood "warm weather training" anyway. We send them to a warm country to train for a season that starts during probably the coldest spell in the year? But then, I'm not a trainer.

the benefits are both physical and psychological.

The physical aspect means you are not hindered by climatic conditions when trying to get a base level of fitness.
The psychologial aspects mean that practises, understanding and greater teamwork/set play drills can be performed, thus enhancing the team understainding.

Cancelling a session at Brantingham Park/Saltend/wherever at this stage of the season is far more detrimental in the building blocks of getting an individual or team up to speed as quickly as possible.

I reamain unconvienced. Physical... you can obtain a perfectly good fitness level in a variety of ways, including indoor training facilities, such as indoor pitches, gyms, and swimming, running tracks, all of which are pretty readily available.

Psycological, while I understand that the areas you have highlights are important, I don't see how its got anything to do with warm weather. If we want to work in a team or understand each other we all have to jet off to somewhere warm. I'm going to suggest it to my manager, I'm not sure he'll go for it though. I think you can actually get all of those things here in the UK were the training conditions will be similar to those they will be playing in.

Bunch of poofs, we should employ Mick Crane as conditioner

I reamain unconvienced.

Fine by me mate, but when youve had Elite Performance Sports squads ranging from individual athletes to Olympic Squads numbering +300 in size, in every sport, and every discipline, for the best part of 60 years using these 'warm weather training camps'.......

..........i think there might be something in them!

Of course, if you have another scientificially proven piece of empirical evidence or a case study we can refer back to - then im all ears!

If you are doing ball work and learning new moves etc. you dont want to be doing it in driving rain on a boggy pitch. I don't think warm weather camps are crucial but they are useful for getting some good quality training done and it is a good morale booster for the players too.

I agree a dry envirnment with plenty of space is key for ball work but doesnt have to be abroad. Team spirit/team building is probably more effective in a challenging UK environment like an army camp than it would be overseas too imo.

It doesn't rain indoors.

Its a perk! And there is nothing wrong with perks, but lets call a spade a spade. Like you say, perks are often good for morale and thats not bad thing and I imagine what ExiledFromHull from said earlier about team building etc is also true, however it can all be achieved within the UK as well imo.

There is nothing in the game of Rugby League that can't be trained with the modern facilities already open to Hull FC players. And as I said before, the weather that you will be playing in at the start of the season is certainly not warm weather and there is no requirement for the player ever to get their skin damp anyway.

Oh, how I long for the days before "sports science" degrees became popular.

As I said earlier, name me one thing essenital to playing Rugby League that can't be done within the UK. I sure can't think of any and despite not been a trainer or having a degree in PE , I do know RL pretty well and have, debatably a bit of common sense as well.

I do know RL pretty well and have, debatably a bit of common sense as well.

and i know sport very well!

And having been on many many winter warm weather camps, i can vouch for them.
For example, i play hockey, and often we would fly to South Africa or Malaysia to train for 2 weeks, just after boxing day!

Those 2 weeks of uninterupted stick and ball training, the ability to complete numerous 10 x 400m sessions, the ability to know i personally could practise, perfect and hone a set of skills which would have been otherwise impossible in the howling wind and ice cold of Bisham Abbey or Lilleshall meant i arrived back full in the knowledge that if i had stayed in the UK or mainland Europe with the sqaud - we would have not have performed as well as we did in SA or Malaysia.

Also, the fact that we were training in heat and humidity would put our body under greater stresses, meaning our conditioning was far more improved when we arrived back!

So thats 2 weeks of uninterupted, near perfect conditions for techicanl skills.

Thats 2 weeks of undistracted focus away from other 'factors', meaning we focussed on why we were there!

2 weeks of physical training under far more testing conditions than 'Boothferry Hill' or 'Recca'

2 weeks of work making feel confident in my own abilities, as opposed to be slightly unsure.

And as you said in your post "As I said earlier, name me one thing essenital to playing Rugby League that can't be done within the UK."

.....no one is saying they cant be done in the UK, they are just done better and with more benefit when done in better conditions! And in a game where teams play till the 82nd minute, every small percentage factor is crucial. And if that percentage factor means your winger spends 2 weeks on the Algarve practising catching precision placed high kicks, as opposed to spending 2 weeks in Brantingham in the wet weather - then i know where i'd want my winger to train!

Oh, and as for running up Boothferry Hill - thats a pussy run! Done it many a time, get on the path behind lower school up towards Ttranby Croft - thats a proper training run!