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| Quote: east hull FC fan "The alternative is to not recognize them as a political party as they are illegal. The BNP has more exposure now than it ever did, that's worrying to me.'"
unfortunately they are a democratically elected party with regional seats i am afraid so thats an impossibility, and to be fair if we are the grand daddy culture of democracy then they should be allowed their moment on the goggle box, however National geographic and the history channel teaches us nightly that the Nazi party came from much smaller seedlings than the BNP and without the national media platforms they use in todays society to get their issues across...
Rekmember there are high flying senior military and police in their ranks so beware
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| "Rekmember there are high flying senior military and police in their ranks so beware"
So beware of what,what sort of a statement is that to make.
It was supposed to be a political debate covering a variety of issues which seem to have been lost in translation
" freedom of political expression, freedom of speech and freedom of the press are essential so that citizens are informed and able to vote in their personal interests" taken from the definition of democracy make of it what you will
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| Quote: snaflr ""Rekmember there are high flying senior military and police in their ranks so beware"
So beware of what,what sort of a statement is that to make.
was a general warning about the merits of the BNP in general not last nights so called debate, anyway its chip paper now they will never have any real teeth so lets forget it ..
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| I watched it last night and conclude that the only reason he came across as a complete tit is not because it was a pre-planned ambush, but because he IS a complete tit! When he started to try to explian the policy on race he was shot down at every turn, not because it was biased but because it is a silly policy and when debated will always look silly.
The fact he was on the show is a demonstration of the freedom our country has, sometimes that freedom is hard or unpleasant.
Who has the right to choose who should and who should not speak?
Democracy is the worst form of government, except for the other forms that have already been tried.
Hopefully it will have opened the potential Protest Voter to re think who they should vote for in protest
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| It seems like this forum is just as good as last night's QT. Lots of people jumping on the "let's all slag the BNP" bandwagon.
Last night's programme was a joke and wasn't helped by the usual impartial chair being not so impartial.
Nick Griffin is an intelligent man with a lot of common sense views which strike a chord with many people. It just seems like most people think it's easier or more politically correct to extremely oppose those views.
In general, he was treat very poorly last night and the biggest loss was QT's respect as an impartial political programme,
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| I was initially against the BBC giving this nazi party any airtime at all but to be fair, anyone who for whatever reasons have voted BNP in the past, must have seen through Griffin as he lied and bumbled his way through the show. His debating skills were shown up as a sham and his nervous answers when asked about his past beliefs blantantly shone through.
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| Quote: thehullwhitestar "It seems like this forum is just as good as last night's QT. Lots of people jumping on the "let's all slag the BNP" bandwagon.
Last night's programme was a joke and wasn't helped by the usual impartial chair being not so impartial.
Nick Griffin is an intelligent man with a lot of common sense views which strike a chord with many people. It just seems like most people think it's easier or more politically correct to extremely oppose those views.
In general, he was treat very poorly last night and the biggest loss was QT's respect as an impartial political programme,'"
Utter garbage.
People oppose the BNP because of their racist policies and grossly offensive views. It's nothing to do with "political correctness".
Griffin is a former member of the fascist National Front, he is a holocaust denier ("the holohoax" as he once referred to it) and he has a conviction for distributing material likely to incite racial hatred. Not what I call "common sense".
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| Quote: blakeysrobin "Agree with everything. But I suppose he was eventually going to be given a right to speak. Agree with Gordon as well, he may spout tosh but he will answer a question. Lets hope other MPs take note of that and not answer questions with questions.
Griffen reminds me a little of Scargill, My grandad once said 'That Scargill's a clever bugger you know but by god if he ever got a brain he'd be dangerous'.'" I to was like your granddad about Scargill But what he did say That if the Miners get beat the rest of the Country would suffer ..Now right he was Hospitals/Buses /Trains you name it the Bitch in charge Privatized everything
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Utter garbage.
People oppose the BNP because of their racist policies and grossly offensive views. It's nothing to do with "political correctness".
Griffin is a former member of the fascist National Front, he is a holocaust denier ("the holohoax" as he once referred to it) and he has a conviction for distributing material likely to incite racial hatred. Not what I call "common sense".'"
I suppose your content to greet people with "happy holidays" at Christmas in order not to upset any muslims are you ??
Our country has been filled with foreign scroungers and religious freaks who, on the whole, detest us and everything for which we stand but they like our standard of living and our handouts.
Anyone from anywhere should be allowed to come to our country as long as they accept our way of life and have something to offer in the way of a trade of some kind but we all know that this is not the case and our immigration is an utter shambles. Nick Griffin is merely stating that this is clearly not right and that many people are sick to the back teeth of it.
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| Quote: thehullwhitestar "Nick Griffin is an intelligent man with a lot of common sense views which strike a chord with many people. It just seems like most people think it's easier or more politically correct to extremely oppose those views.'"
No. He's a vile racist and not particularly bright. His only talent is conning the gullible and even less bright into thinking otherwise.
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| Im afraid the panel missed a golden chance last night to bury them for good.
Like a rabbit in headlights they turned every question into a bash the BNP and look at us answer.
Questions about the problems we face going into an election would have had him floundering.
The one question on everyones lips about immigration was bombed by the lot. Jack Straw was going great guns and then a question about current problems killed him.
Now Griffen has complained and offered a one on one debate with Labour and the Cons. They wont accept and so some people will assume he's right.
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| Quote: thehullwhitestar "I suppose your content to greet people with "happy holidays" at Christmas in order not to upset any muslims are you ??
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No, because I am rationally minded, unlike Nick Griffin or yourself by the sounds of it.
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| Quote: thehullwhitestar "I suppose your content to greet people with "happy holidays" at Christmas in order not to upset any muslims are you ?'"
Im not. Its Happy Christmas for me. If other faiths dont like it tough. I dont ask anything of them and I sure they wont ask anything of me.
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| Quote: Kosh "No. He's a vile racist and not particularly bright. His only talent is conning the gullible and even less bright into thinking otherwise.'"
So anyone who actually thinks that he talks some sense is gullible and even less bright ?? Thank you very much !!
Surely that's just as absurd as you being a sheep that just follows the politically correct bandwagon and probably votes for Lab or Lib Dem ???
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "No, because I am rationally minded, unlike Nick Griffin or yourself by the sounds of it.'"
I'm very rationally minded thank you !! I can also make my own mind up as to whether someone talks some sense from time to time.
I suppose anyone who actually agrees with some of his views is a nazi racist thug or something similar ??? That couldn't be further from the truth.
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