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3444.gif HULL FC CHALLENGE CUP WINNERS 2005
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| This defeat totally lays at the door of the players. Not Radford.
18 points up , and then to switch off is disgraceful.
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| Not convinced by Watson, apart from last season (which I think was down more down to Hastings) they have struggled, look poor this year also despite bring in some good players, simalar budget to Hudds and wakey and both have beat them at home.
I'd be looking to the NRL, but I don't know who that would be, have to use our contacts in the NRL and our ex NRL players here to find the right man.
Lose on Friday, I'd be gettign rid, certainly a must win game for Radford.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "Then it's always gonna be the same old story, because unless you can achieve perfection season on season, then whoever the coach is, is gonna be a failure.
Let's take the last 4 seasons, two successful seasons, a write off season and a season of falling just slightly short. So by my calculator, he's still in credit.
Get behind your coach.'"
Ignore the results for a minute. And the successes and the failures.
Do we look like a well coached team in your opinion?
In my opinion we look hugely disorganised pretty much all of the time. Even when we play well and play some good rugby, there is no structure to it, it all relies on individual efforts and off the cuff play. We never pick a side apart with good attacking shape or set plays. We are always relying on a bit of brilliance from someone. In the Agar days our only plan was give it to Manu. These days we have a better squad and there are a few more strike players that we can look to, but the principle is the same. Give it to Kelly or Connor or Griffin and see if they can magic up a big play from somewhere.
The defence is even worse, we seem to panic and make rash decisions every time the ball goes wide. We don't control the PTB very well, we get our numbers wrong too often, and most importantly there is rarely enough intensity. Defence is about attitude, you can cover up a lot of sins if everyone is really prepared to put their body on the line and never give up on a play. But we just don't have that attitude. At least not often enough.
On top of all that we are mentally weak. When we are in control the cue goes on the rack, when we are getting well beat we give up. When we have injuries we feel sorry for ourselves.
The results aren't the be all and end all. We are way below the standard that we should be with this group of players.
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "Giddy up old fella
I think you are indeed a tad Giddy if I may say
Other than Lee’s family I’m finding it hard for anyone to have a reason to keep
Going with LR'"
Because were 5 games into a new season and things can turn around quickly in sport as we've experienced with our very own team.
Looking forward to a Wakefiekd trip kn Friday.
Staying over, hotel booked, supporting the coach and team.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "Nah, it just proves we need to show him a little bit more patience, and let's see where we are when the trophies are handed out,
We looked very destructive on the 1 occasion we had more or less our best team out this season. Since then, we've just had players dropping out the team from game to game.
Don't think I don't understand people's frustrations, I do, because it's frustrating, we all wanna succeed. I just think people are pointing the blame at the wrong things.'"
So what are the wrong things??
Are we talking about the lack of invention in attack, the continuous five drives and a kick. The lack of dummy runners that sees the driving forward getting smashed by three players over and over, the lack of offloads or lack of any idea on the opposition line.
Or are we talking about the lack of discipline on defence, the lack of aggression and the pathetic line speed and lack of fitness that sees our team unable to compete for 80 minutes. No your right this has nothing to do with Redford, he pulls a rabbit out the hat every few games and all is well ffs
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8082_1359018606.jpg I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_8082.jpg |
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Ignore the results for a minute. And the successes and the failures.
Do we look like a well coached team in your opinion?
In my opinion we look hugely disorganised pretty much all of the time. Even when we play well and play some good rugby, there is no structure to it, it all relies on individual efforts and off the cuff play. We never pick a side apart with good attacking shape or set plays. We are always relying on a bit of brilliance from someone. In the Agar days our only plan was give it to Manu. These days we have a better squad and there are a few more strike players that we can look to, but the principle is the same. Give it to Kelly or Connor or Griffin and see if they can magic up a big play from somewhere.
The defence is even worse, we seem to panic and make rash decisions every time the ball goes wide. We don't control the PTB very well, we get our numbers wrong too often, and most importantly there is rarely enough intensity. Defence is about attitude, you can cover up a lot of sins if everyone is really prepared to put their body on the line and never give up on a play. But we just don't have that attitude. At least not often enough.
On top of all that we are mentally weak. When we are in control the cue goes on the rack, when we are getting well beat we give up. When we have injuries we feel sorry for ourselves.
The results aren't the be all and end all. We are way below the standard that we should be with this group of players.'"
^^^^^THIS^^^^^
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| Mentioned earlier that our tries were individual efforts and Catalans were in the main well constructed.
The passing from the play the ball is consistently off the mark as well, resulting in losing vital split seconds.
We just seem to play ultra rigid until the wheels fall off, and then we revert to NFL style lateral plays in a mass panic to chase the game.
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| didn't Radford sometime in the past say he would walk if he couldn't get the team doing any better or words to that effect?
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| That was his get out of jail phrase which bought him some time
Clearly looks like he will never walk
Record losses would have seen any coach walk last season
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| The same old drivel, excuses and rhetoric coming out in the media too now from Scott Taylor rlhererl. Fed up of hearing how they are going really well in training every week, which must be bullshizzle or they'd be able to transfer it into match day by now. The fact he is stating like Radford they don't know why they perform so badly is a major concern.
Instead of telling us you are confident you'd be better stopping with the words and showing by your actions as so far you are no better than the last two seasons of crapness.
You could literally take this story and compare it to the self same crap that has been churned out in 2018 & 2019 and before. Same problems, attitude and coach just a different season and players but same end result.
When is the penny going to drop??
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| Quote: hansoloishere "So what are the wrong things??
Are we talking about the lack of invention in attack, the continuous five drives and a kick. The lack of dummy runners that sees the driving forward getting smashed by three players over and over, the lack of offloads or lack of any idea on the opposition line.
Or are we talking about the lack of discipline on defence, the lack of aggression and the pathetic line speed and lack of fitness that sees our team unable to compete for 80 minutes. No your right this has nothing to do with Redford, he pulls a rabbit out the hat every few games and all is well ffs'" How are we not finishing bottom of the table every season with all that going on?
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "How are we not finishing bottom of the table every season with all that going on?'"
Because we have some X Factor players who can sometimes create a bit of magic. Or some big buggers who can barge over
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "Because we have some X Factor players who can sometimes create a bit of magic. Or some big buggers who can barge over'" Just as I thought. When we win, it's because we have good players. When we lose, it's because we have a poor coach.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "Just as I thought. When we win, it's because we have good players. When we lose, it's because we have a poor coach.'"
I never made that statement?
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "I never made that statement?'" I did, but I'll admit, I was being slightly sarcastic.
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