If that happends what would happen to the members like myself that represent a certain fan base like disabled and Ex players etc?

FCVoices and HISA are different organisations, HISA will have a membership Voices have not.

Yeah but I mean if Voices disbanded because of a fans group? The whole point of Voices was to have representation from a variety of fan bases ( I know you know already Ian, ) This is why I don't think Voices should/would fold, and theres a space already and waiting for the next representative of a fans group

You'd join HISA (or whatever it is called).

As it is you could have HISA and FCVoices having oposing opinions, which would hand the power straight back to the club.

There is a place on FC Voices Committee set asside for a representative of an Independant supporters group just as there is for Black and whites, the disabled supporters and the ex players. B&W decided not to take the option up but the other two have representatives there at every meeting. That place is there for any representative nominated by The ISA, that is built into the constitution of FC Voices. I would hope that the two groups could work together and no doubt the members of Fc Voices would, as the new group gained some momentum, decide themselves whether they still had a role to play!

In fact I would hope that there would be a place on the new organisations Committee for a representative from FC Voices!

I think you will find that the members of Fc Voices are a bit above open warfare and and would only get involved when they could help.

It is hardly likely that they would side against the fans organisation, they are more likely on certain issues to either support them or stand aside and let the ISA get on with it! When FC Voices got as many fans saying they backed Friday games as those who said they were against them they just decided to do nothing because as they have no mandate from a membership they could not get a clear indication of what the fans wanted!

There is no place for meglamania in this excercise if there was it would fail!!!

It will not be in any new organisations interest to go ham fisted at it and expect an organisation who have built a strong relationship with the club to fold before they have even found out whether the club will talk to them!!

That would look really unproffessional for starters! The new organisation needs to be concentrating on building a relationship with the club first and formost, and opointing out to the club the benifits of working together, rather than looking for absolute power as far as the fans organisations are concerned!

Spot on

But this is the point that we try to make, FC Voices members don't have opinions as a group.(Maybe as individuals we do but not as a group) Fans come to us with a query/problem/question, we try to find answers or work with the club to resolve issues. Thats why we have representation of fans and groups.

Not for me!!

It will become like the Monty Python sketch:

"Are you the People's front of Judea"
"No, we're the Judean people's front"
"Ah"

If we end up with B&W,ISA,FCVoices then nobody can claim to representa genuine majority of the fans, a strong B&W asscoiation is the way forward in my opinion.