Agreed.

Good signing if we start playing like Saints do. If we keep to this years tactics, pointless.

Long likes to play lots of off the cuff stuff and could see him working well with Horne, Washy and Hall

Wouldn't read too much into Fitzgibbon and Long saying it was Richard Agar that persuaded them to sign. They will say what they are told and we know our coach is under pressure at the moment.

Lynch would be a direct replacement for Carvell, is a big lad makes very good yards.

If we can keep him fit I think he'll do a great job for us.
Welcome Sean!

He didn't say it was to replace Thacks.

Of the main two kids out on loan I suspect it will be Scott Moore and not Matty Smith who will return. A pity, because Smith has done the business for Saints (he was VERY unlucky losing out to Long for our first GF defeat against Leeds. Given his excellent long kicking game - which failed us totally that night - he might well have given us a winning chance).

With his pace off the mark and step Wheeler looks a natural six/centre. He doesn't have the distribution or kicking game to be a good seven.

but its the wrong kind of prop. We carry on about our lack of impact then are saying another grafter forward is a good signing.

that saif if we kept moa, thackray, lauauki, dowes, maloney and signed lynch then that gives us good balance in the prop department.

this would mean getting rid of king though

Note for stats people (Big Dave T).

Despite his age Long played 23 League games last season and has played 12 League games so far this season, not a bad apperance record.

Sean Long to be dropped for this fridays game then?

Good to have options I guess, Saints problem will be that Pryce/Eastmond are the new halfback pairing then they could lose out on Smith who won't wait around for ever and if the centres are fit then when does Wheeler get a game?

I for one will be sorry to see him leave us



I reckon he will give good service to Hull FC he is still The Best No 7 in The Game. Good Luck to you Longy enjoy your time at Hull.

sorry i'm just assuming with thackray OOC at the end of they year then that would be his replacement as there has been whisperings of cusack getting a new contract. plus with king tied up for next year too it gives us limited options

I definately would offer thackray a new deal

Healthy competition! TBH, I think Wheeler has caught Saints by surprise by jumping the gun with regards to development. I don't think anyone expected him to be at the stage he is now until next season - or longer. I'm pretty sure Gidley and Gilmour will be gone next season. Soliola takes one centre spot. Wheeler takes the other.

i would. he has said himself he wants to end his career at fc and i would love him to do so

Ahh right I expected Gidley to stay for another year and then Lyon would replace him.

I would also, unless we sign Lynch.

New FB
Calderwood
Briscoe
Yeaman
Raynor
Horne
Long
Dowes
Berrigan
Thacks
Tickle
Fizgibbon
Whiting

King
Hame
Manu
Washbrook/Whiting

Does Lyon play 7? Maybe he's going to be their 7 next year

Sounds good! With Injuries i'm sure Burnett will figure somewhere too...

TBH, I'm not d about Lyon (unlike most Saints fans, who work themselves up into a creamy lather at the merest mention of his name). He'll be nearing 30 by the time his contract is up and no doubt demanding a high salary. I'm not saying he won't be a good player - but I don't think it's a good idea to tie up a ton of money for three years on a player whose best days will probably be behind him.

The good thing about Long is that he comes with a strong kicking game. Just look at the difference we had in the side in the few games Dykes played last season. He, too, had a good kicking game, and it made a big difference to us.

I tend to agree, if Lyon was to come I would want him now.

Friday will be interesting when Longy runs out

Wigan and Warrington will both be after a halfback (Warrington maybe two) for next season, at the moment there is only Finch and Orford available for next year, i would bet a lot of money if they want to come to SL, Warrington or Wigan would have beaten us to there signings.

So the Long signing looks very good move by Hull.

I would guess that there wont be a better halfback available than Long for next season.

I personally think Lynch offers a lot more impact than he seems to be getting credit for. I'd be surprised if there were more than a couple of yards per carry difference between him and Thackray, and he takes it in a lot more. Than there's his offloading game to consider as well. Not just a grafter IMO, offers plenty in attack as well.

Cant see us landing Lyon as someone said he will want a big contract (£££) and i feel he is on the back end of his career but....all the being said....if we did get him then it would be great for him and long to play alongside Raynor and Horne