Plus I don’t get why some keep claiming he’s unfit and out of form?

If he was would Catalan, who are challenging at the top of the table, keep picking him?

If he plays for us like he is this season for them then that will be a big improvement on anything we’ve seen this season.

That’ll explain Dereks weekly head loss

Boring

Is this our 17 so far

1. Stewart
2. Briscoe
3. Hardaker
4. Chamberlain
5. Martin/Okunbur
6. Truey
7. Abdul
8. Ese’ese
9. Unknown
10. Ashworth
11. Cartwright
12. Holmes
13. Asiata
14. Fash/Aydin
15. Pele
16. Bourmah
17. Sao/Lane

Catalan and Warrington the two clubs after Bateman.

I said I hope I’m wrong, but are these experienced players coming to be squad players? Or ‘competition’ for places with Litten/reserves player?

Hardaker, Chamberlain and another quota centre is a lot spent on these positions. Maybe Carlos’ mega wage will allow it, though.

Still hoping for Lafai.

Maybe the are planned first choice and it’s just the reality of the financial situation we are in, If we are struggling personally I’d sooner take risks on unknown players (just have someone better at identifying them rather than just taking whoever the bulldogs want rid) but I think it’s an obvious strategy to try and fill the side with steady journeyman in the hope we just don’t get hammered every week.

To be fair Hardaker and Chamberlain are better then what we’ve been able to field most weeks this season.

With Catalan and Warrington after Bateman, does that suggest perhaps that the rumoured signing of Whitehead will be happening, as I think Catalan would have been all over that. Whitehead and Cartwright in the Back Row, with Holmes off the bench?

I've watched him in the last couple of games and he's been pretty much a passenger on the pitch, struggling to keep up with play, having no real influence on the attack and looking like an oil tanker in defence. If other people can't see that then they need to remove their B&W tinted specs.

I think he has 5 try assists this season, for context, sneyd, in a worse team, has 14 and sneyd used to get slagged from pillar to post on here.

I may be proven wrong, I think it may have happened previously at some point, but his track record doesn't give me any belief I will be. Other than a few early season months at rovers last year and the year before, his career has been monumentally underwhelming and pinning our hopes on him will prove to be a mistake.

He's 28, not 21

Every comment you do is negative no matter who we sign you have a pop that's why it's boring nothing to do with no agreeing with me.

I think we have plenty of cap Sutcliffe and Carlos where two of our highest paid players, we know about Carlos after what Pearson said and Sutcliffe wouldn't have given up a testimonial at Leeds unless it was very lucrative.

Dont think the two signed will be massive wages, wont have been that much competition.

If we can create a quota spot we will sign an overseas centre IMO.

Litten not signed for next year yet and the two young are a coupe of years away, both still play for the academy.

Don't think cap is an issue when you look at the amount of players leaving and the fact we are going to utilize the full cap for the first time in years.

Litten has rumored to have signed for next season .

I still think one of Pele/Sao and Ockunbor gets moved on.

We sign another winger, Centre, hooker and one more forwrad (maybe two)

If anyone doubts what Abdull can bring to the side, go and watch Rivals Round on You Tube. I've only watched the first 20 minutes, but he is bossing it. Defensively strong, directing the side around, great kicking game