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Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "The lack of trust is the thing, nobody seems to trust the man on the inside to do their job and make their tackle.'"


100% this.

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Quote: Hullboysclub4ever "I can’t understand why our edge defence constantly come and umbrella in !. All a decent half back has to do is sling a pass over the defender that shoots in trying to umbrella them and it leaves the edges wide open . That’s why so many try’s are been scored by the opposition wingers , because it’s so predictable. If we just held back , numbered up and trust our selves to make the tackle it wouldn’t happen.'"


The problem is even if the edge defence is bolstered all the attacking team has to do is stroll through the middle. Just like they did last night.

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Our lack of basic skills is so alarming and has been for a while, simple passing and catching should be the minimum requirement for a professional rugby player but the amount of times we've got players taking passes round their knees or head or behind them is ridiculous.

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Quote: Towns88 "Snake rushed back way too soon.

Almost felt like you put all your eggs into tonight's basket and it unravelled horribly that 2nd half.

You've had some proper horrible ends to the season and I think you can add this season to the list now.

Scott Taylor Danny Houghton are shot to bits, wattsy out performed Tag tonight and he was sat on his sofa.

What's the situation with Ben Mcnamara ? That lovedea should be 9, blood some of the kids now because I think it's fair to say you're cooked this season.'"


Out of interest, why too soon? We’re desperate for a spark and in the first half he gave that, with an assist and some good touches. Hindsight says his pass to Faraimo was bad, but it was a good read by Faraimo. He doesn’t make that and we’re 22/24 to 8 and they have 12 players on the pitch, would be a different game. I know that’s all it’s and buts, and I’m not excusing anything, but we need all the help we can get and Connor was ready and he had to play. Unfortunately he was as bad as the rest of the team after all that!

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I would assume next week we will line up with Jake back at 1, Smith into 6 to partner Gale in the halves.
I don't know much about Smith so anybody know if he would be a better option at fullback than 6?

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Quote: Hasbag "I would assume next week we will line up with Jake back at 1, Smith into 6 to partner Gale in the halves.
I don't know much about Smith so anybody know if he would be a better option at fullback than 6?'"

Surely our esteemed coach will provide the answer.

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Well that was fun. When your there you tend to pick more up concerning players efforts etc. For 30 min I honestly thought we would win. Even half time I did. Connor pass if sticking wr go up 24/14 and might have gone on to win. What happened next is not acceptable. Certain players throw in the towel. Hodgson will get a lot of flak rightly so. But the players deserve more. What's Ellis supposed to be doing? We went behind and once again a lot of players put there que away. I was disgusted at the lack of effort by some. Wondering around like it's a Sunday walk. I've stuck up for Hodgson but he's got to be man enough to drop or get rid of some. How the H Ell is it good enough to not give the basic effort in a professional team.

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Quote: hull2524 "Well that was fun. When your there you tend to pick more up concerning players efforts etc. For 30 min I honestly thought we would win. Even half time I did. Connor pass if sticking wr go up 24/14 and might have gone on to win. What happened next is not acceptable. Certain players throw in the towel. Hodgson will get a lot of flak rightly so. But the players deserve more. What's Ellis supposed to be doing? We went behind and once again a lot of players put there que away. I was disgusted at the lack of effort by some. Wondering around like it's a Sunday walk. I've stuck up for Hodgson but he's got to be man enough to drop or get rid of some. How the H Ell is it good enough to not give the basic effort in a professional team.'"

Name the players then. Which ones are the problem and which ones are you letting off. Giving some to Ellis now but you still really don't believe Hodgson is the problem do you?

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As Dan Tomlinson said. It would be criminal if some players stayed whilst another coach went. Why shouldn't Ellis kop some is he not the defense coach?. Do we just keep changing the coach and keep the players? We have a habit of just sacking the coach and the underperforming players stay. Last night Taylor Lane where awful. Lovudo doest look the player he was. Brown has dropped off. Connor sulked. Wynne needs to be told to keep his gob shut. He was at it all night. The 3 loanees will leave out as they must thing what have joined he. Evans had a real go. Soa lost it but at least the effort there. Houghton tried. Vuni not a centre. Gale started well and even though he dropped of he actually imo gave it a good shot. Onto Hodgson I have stuck up for him. But I would like him now to start dropping the worst culprits and ship them out. I still blame Griffin.

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For me the time has come for the core group of players to be cleared out. Houghton, Taylor, Griffin along with Johnstone and Gale. I’d put a question mark on some others such as Lane, Carlos even Connor (if it’s true he’s messaged Radford about where he’s playing etc) and a warning to Wynne about his attitude and petulance.
I think Hodgsons time is also up as he just doesn’t seem to have the personality to get tough with the players, tell them how it is in blunt language or have any real ideas as he just looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. Purtill is another that should also be shown the door.
We need a uncompromising coach who isn’t interested in who you are or what you’ve done in the past but just in what you do in the present and how you perform and doesn’t pull their punches. One who demands pride, effort, commitment from his players at all times and won’t accept anything less than their best regardless and without excuse.

Some players out there should not wear the shirt again after last night so called 2nd half display and I say display as I can’t even say it was effort.

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Quote: hull2524 "As Dan Tomlinson said. It would be criminal if some players stayed whilst another coach went. Why shouldn't Ellis kop some is he not the defense coach?. Do we just keep changing the coach and keep the players? We have a habit of just sacking the coach and the underperforming players stay. Last night Taylor Lane where awful. Lovudo doest look the player he was. Brown has dropped off. Connor sulked. Wynne needs to be told to keep his gob shut. He was at it all night. The 3 loanees will leave out as they must thing what have joined he. Evans had a real go. Soa lost it but at least the effort there. Houghton tried. Vuni not a centre. Gale started well and even though he dropped of he ajctually imo gave it a good shot. Onto Hodgson I have stuck up for him. But I would like him now to start dropping the worst culprits and ship them out. I still blame Griffin.'"


Surely it's Hodgson's job as head coach to get the best out of his appointed coaching staff and rather than dropping all under performing players (of which most are) isnt it time he got a tune out of them. If he's that good a coach then it shouldn't be a problem.

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Quote: Chris71 "For me the time has come for the core group of players to be cleared out. Houghton, Taylor, Griffin along with Johnstone and Gale. I’d put a question mark on some others such as Lane, Carlos even Connor (if it’s true he’s messaged Radford about where he’s playing etc) and a warning to Wynne about his attitude and petulance.
I think Hodgsons time is also up as he just doesn’t seem to have the personality to get tough with the players, tell them how it is in blunt language or have any real ideas as he just looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. Purtill is another that should also be shown the door.
We need a uncompromising coach who isn’t interested in who you are or what you’ve done in the past but just in what you do in the present and how you perform and doesn’t pull their punches. One who demands pride, effort, commitment from his players at all times and won’t accept anything less than their best regardless and without excuse.

Some players out there should not wear the shirt again after last night so called 2nd half display and I say display as I can’t even say it was effort.'"


On the money.

Real lack of accountability and bravery at the club.
Watched Lane make zero attempt to stop Olpherts breaking through and Houghton cantering back instead of chasing him down.

Watched Taylor hiding from taking carries in
And make no attempt to tackle their prop when he went through

The little 1%ers arnt there from some players as well as a huge lack of intensity from the same players, and its the ones born in this city, their professionalism and pride in the shirt has evaporated, they just don't care.

Question is if we can see it clear as day, why isn't Hodgson addressing it?

Matty Laidlow can you imagine him copying Taylor lack of effort? No neither can I, so play him.

Lost count of Houghton crap distribution too, yes he scored a try well done quick thinking but time to go

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What has happened to Jordan Lane? A year ago he was talked about as a future captain but now you don’t know he’s there. Does very little and shirks his defensive work icon_evil.gif

Wish we would stop playing players out of position. Lovodua is not a second rower and Johnstone, well I don’t know what he is but it isn’t wherever he was playing last night?

Our defence was all over the place the whole match. Not just the second half. It was like 13 strangers thrown together on a pitch with no communication allowed.

What the hell do they do in training?

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It's roughly the same point of the season as last season the wheels fell off . Its looking more likely we could out do that one .

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Seven scoreless halves in seven games and another two with just a single try is terrible.

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