Unfortunately Fonua has shown nothing since his return and has been a very poor signing and in truth one that should not have been made.

The more I think about it, the more it annoys me, that 17 yesterday, must have be paid nearly double Salfords.

I've watched every game since the restart and we are easily the worst side in the league, no fight at all.

Big chances needed and with most of the side in contract, there is only one area to chance.

Too early to right Fonua off, I know he hasn't been great, but not many have. We know he can be a very good player, low on confidence, needs dropping for next week

Trouble is now we’re back under immediate pressure with that performance.
Even if we’d looked okay in defeat , it would have bought a bit of time.

I’m not interested how good trainings been. About time they stepped up in a match environment.

I know fonuas has some iffy games
But I think he l come good if partnered up correctly
Showed what he can do vs Catalns as soon as Connor went to centre inside him.

But yeah needs a huge improvement

What is evident is that Salford did nothing fancy yesterday but simply did the basics right and got reward for that and their effort. They had desire, wanted to win and played as a team. We looked like a bunch of individuals that were there for a knock about, there was little or no organisation, no width to our play at all and time and again we were too narrow & bunched and the speed at which we played to say it was pedestrian is being kind.

Regardless of the Coach and the Covid situation the players have had 4 months to take a look at themselves and make sure individually they didn't put in the shambolic performances as they did pre lockdown. Sadly all that time to reflect as individuals, to focus and right the wrongs in their own performances seems to have been for nothing.

Far too many players are still just coasting through the game and at least 6 should be dropped altogether and others on the fringes given a chance. As a player and captain Houghton offered nothing and despite his claims of how refreshed he is, I saw little change if any at all. It was the same old same old, no leadership, hands on hips after every Salford score. A captain should lead by example and drive the players on but there is very little of that happening.

It was day and night wasn't it Chris the difference in desire and enthusiasm.

I commented that when a few decisions go against us, it's almost as if it's the excuse some need to throw the towel in, there's no hunger with alot of these players, I think the rot needs digging out as it effects the whole team as seen.

Sunday's pivotal now, can Last stand by his word and hold players accountable , if that team sheet includes a lot of names mentioned on here I ain't even bothering watching as itl be more of the same

So So Disapppinting.

Dropping a few will make little to no difference, our entire game plan is dreadful. Hearing Lasty bemoaning errors 'coming out of yardage' spoke volumes for me. We PERSIST in one out barges in our own half - where almost every time our lone soldier gets met at the gainline, mullered & then turned on his back, necessitating a very slow play the ball which leads to slow service to another lone runner who meets a very quick advancing defensive line................... oh & then we kick it back to them & have to defend against quick play the balls, multiple bodies in motion & creativity in play. No wonder our guys are gassed !!!!

Our gameplan is SOOOO Flawed & ten years out of date. I really thought the break would change things ??

Can't believe how easily we are outflanked by almost every team, often with just conventional passing - BUT opposition draw a man before passing unlike our 'shovel it on 10 metres from the gainline'. You know like we were all coached to do as 8 year olds.

Really feel for AP, his face was thunder & nobody should doubt his passion. In the clubs defence this squad was assembled to play Bradford Bulls Rugby - the COVID version of the game is not suited to this squad.

Fully agree with the criticism of Fonua - he was woeful, don't see how he would be better at centre ? Reminded me of Fili Seru ?

Plaudits to Carlos though - what a class act he is.

Yes it certainly was, just the difference in the kick/chase alone between us and Salford was so telling as to where we are as a team and a team that wanted to put things right.

Last has no option but to drop certain players and now he has to show and prove his mettle by doing just that regardless of their name. If they want to be in the 17 they have to prove they are worthy of a place in the 17 and quite frankly there weren't many that did that on Sunday. Hopefully if Last is true to his word and drops certain players out the 17 and not just to the bench they may then realise they have to put a shift in for the team every minute of the game.

Our line speed and ball retention has to be improved massively against Cas.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.york ... 7327%3famp Honest words from the legend that is Gaz Ellis. Sad he feels he’s not influencing games any more.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.york ... 7327%3famp Honest words from the legend that is Gaz Ellis. Sad he feels he’s not influencing games any more.

I came on here to give a detailed breakdown of how I saw the game, but most has already been said. We seemed to be highlighting the 6 again rule as being something we can really take advantage of, but when Shaul has come back looking as unfit as he does, and evidently losing a yard of pace, then we will not be able to take advantage of it. Noticeably as well, when there is a quick play the ball, defences are compacting behind the ruck to combat the scoots from acting half. The teams that will benefit from this, will be the ones who see the defence compacting and actually spread the ball at speed to the edges, they will be the ones that will benefit. We, sadly, cannot do this at all.

Reading Gaz Ellis on our soft underbelly, and the in between the lines of needing to be a right hard individual to even play our game, one incident springs to mind in yesterday’s game when “Lannon ” I think, smashed Fonua with an illegal and deliberate shoulder charge, which really should of been dealt with by the officials, I can think of other lesser thought of Hull teams who would have made sure this particular player got his pay back, one way or another, yet nothing happened, nothing, and subsequently said player continued to do what he wanted during the match. Little thing maybe, but shows this team, on that and other performances are not together, there is still something not right in our group, but if Last or AP doesn’t have the answer then I’m buxxered if I do.

Inspirational coach needed, I’ve changed tack big style, this promotion from within is a mistake as early as it is.

Can people remember Sean McRae calling out the attitude of the club years ago?
Think he even called it a “cancer” at the club.

This attitude seems to be a prevailing, running theme. If being in and around Gaz Ellis every day doesn’t inspire you, you may as well give up.

Last year's play the ball clamp down appears to have been rescinded, it certainly speeds up the play the ball when players walk over the ball with absolutely no backward movement of the foot to touch the ball. Makes life so much easier for the acting half back.