Wasn't clueless when he out-coached Wane in the 2016 challenge cup semi and the 2017 final.

you know there is a difference between an "average side" in a league in any given year, and an average side compared to previous iterations of the same team don't you?

I’ve no problem with constructive criticism, but four matches in to a new season, and a Radders out thread, it is more like a witch hunt.

Maybe pop your comment over on the relevant thread as its coming over people arnt allowed to discuss our short comings on the matchday thread, after the match.

Does a new season draw a line under previous season's performances? if so do we disregard those cup wins which were years ago?

... and what about 2018, when the club had the worst injury record in living memory.
Plenty on here have already conveniently forgotten it ever happened.

You couldn’t disregard those fantastic occasions, even you must have enjoyed them. But this is 20/20 four games in, we’re not that good, we’re not that bad, give the lads a chance, even till Easter as one of our posters use to say, we don’t know how the season will unravel.

My original post is on the correct thread, regarding Wigan v Hull.

Even I must have enjoyed them? I love this club and have supported them for best part of 50 years. Seen plenty of ups and downs but I'm not blind to the clubs failings unlike some

And the joint worst losing run in our history along with the worst defeat in our history too wasnt it?

I guess I’m just a glass half full type of guy Jake

... and maybe, just maybe, because of the worst injury record in living memory.

I still can't understand why some people believe that losing 7 players from your starting 13 doesn't weaken the team significantly. It's nothing to do with excuses, it's a simple fact.