I know we've brought Radford out of retirement this season, but according to the BBC website Lee Crooks scored a try for us last night. If only.... get yer boots on Lee, we need you! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18772878

I know we've brought Radford out of retirement this season, but according to the BBC website Lee Crooks scored a try for us last night. If only.... get yer boots on Lee, we need you! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18772878

Why?

Seems unlikely, as I don't think that AP is either an idiot or a raving loon.

They were very good, but we were awful we let them play the ball two fast and you can't let them score try's when we have the ball.

Seymour made a couple shocking errors but still looked the only pivot to create anything.

Mcgoldrick is awful, I would be happy if he never played for hull again, Russell is a miles better player and would rather play another youngsters than him.

You will never win a game against a good side with only one prop.

Some players arent good enough like Horne, turner, Pitts, aspinwall and mcgoldrick. Others need to up thier game like westerman.

Lots of work to do this and next season for AP And PG.

On the positive side I though Cunningham and Green did well, both showed some very aggressive defence.

Did any fans actually expect immediate success?

This was always going to be a year of transition.

It depends what you call success, I didn't expect us to go backwards.

I've no doubt our recruitment will be good but the form of the side is worrying.

So we finish let's say 8th this season and 5th next season and you think AP will keep PG ?

AP isn't an idiot/loon but I can have a great guess at the type of person who may be !

Just like getting hammered at Leeds , finishing 8th this season and 5th next is NOT acceptable to AP , it wouldn't be to me and shouldn't be to PG either.

McGuire at Wigan and Smith at Wire and Brown at Giants(before etc) ALL 3 show that a team can be turned around in 1 season NOT the 3 you are obv looking at.

Therein is my point and has been for years , too many fans accept mediocre , that's how they live their lives. Mediocre.

Thank goodness AP wants to WIN and win big , very soon !

It depends whether Pearson backs up his bluster and puts his hand in his pocket and puts a quality side together. If we get 6 Ryan McGoldricks then 5th wouldn't be a success it would be a bloody miracle.

Also Wigan and Warrington had really good sides anyway, McGuire and Smith were lucky to inherit teams that had underacheived. As for Brown, I didnt realise that being feebly booted out of the playoffs in week one was a success.

How did Cunningham do?

That's not what a LOT of Hull fans where saying just a few months ago.

you forgot to mention Trent Robinson who turned a bunch of dejected losers finishing bottom of the league into a good competitive side last season (winning Coach of the Year) and reinforced the improvements this season with a really strong side - ok, they probably won't win anything but at least they are playing good RL and giving entertainment and value for money to their fans and hopefully to fans from other clubs.

Success doesn't have to be projected over a three year period, how can it be with so much player movement & injuries etc but Tony Smith and Michael Maguire proved recently it can be done short term so why this 'three year' nonsense ?

Today is today, who cares what happens in three years ?

Didn't Smith go out and pay fee's for some of the UK's best talent? Didn't Maguire sign 3 first teamers from Melbourne?